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    Reports: Russian contractors killed by US strike in Syria

    FILE - In this file photo taken on Tuesday, Dec. 12, 2017, Russian President Vladimir Putin addresses the troops at the Hemeimeem air base in Syria. Several private Russian military contractors were killed by a U.S. strike in Syria, Russian media reported Tuesday, Feb. 13, 2018 in a development that could further inflame Russia-U.S. tensions if officially confirmed. (Mikhail Klimentyev/Pool Photo via AP, File)
    MOSCOW (AP) — An unknown number of private Russian military contractors were killed by a U.S. strike in Syria, Russian media reported Tuesday in a development that could further inflame Russia-U.S. tensions.

    Officials in both Moscow and Washington remained coy about the deaths, which would be an embarrassment for both countries if it turns out that Russian fighters were part of a unit that attacked a military force with American troops.

    President Vladimir Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, refrained from commenting on reports about the incident last week, saying they need to be verified.

    Asked during a conference call with reporters if Putin raised the episode during a phone conversation Monday with U.S. President Donald Trump, Peskov said the situation in Syria wasn't discussed during the call.

    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Tuesday that Russia has told the U.S. there were no Russians in the area of the strike. Mattis said he saw the news reports about Russian contractors possibly being casualties of the bombing.

    "I don't have any reporting that some non-Russian Federation soldiers, but Russian contractors were among the casualties," Mattis told reporters traveling with him in Europe. "I can't give you anything on that. We have not received that word at Central Command or the Pentagon."

    Russian media said the Russian private contractors were part of pro-government forces that advanced on oil fields in the eastern Deir el-Zour province and were targeted by the United States. The reports cited activists who confirmed that at least four Russian citizens were killed in Syria on Wednesday.

    During the war in Syria, Russia and the United States have maintained a communications channel to avoid collisions between their warplanes and soldiers in the chaotic battlefield. If Russian deaths from the U.S. strike are confirmed, it would mean the two countries were on the verge of a direct military confrontation in Syria.

    The episode could further strain ties between the two countries, which have plummeted to the lowest levels since the Cold War over the Ukrainian conflict, the war in Syria and the alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

    The U.S. military said last week it unleashed air and artillery barrage on Syrian government-backed troops after some 300 attackers launched what appeared to be a coordinated assault on Syrian opposition forces accompanied by U.S. advisers in the province of Deir el-Zour. It said it was in regular communication with Russian counterparts before, during and after the attack, and Russian officials assured coalition officials they would not strike coalition forces.

    It said the U.S. strikes, which reportedly killed about 100 of the attackers, were in self-defense.

    The Russian Defense Ministry has insisted that its troops weren't involved in the incident, saying 25 Syrian volunteers were wounded in the U.S. strike.

    It also noted pro-government forces that advanced toward the area under control of the U.S.-supported forces had failed to coordinate their action with the Russian military in Syria.

    Mattis last week dismissed any suggestion that Russia had any control over the attacking force, whose nationalities, motives and makeup he could not identify.

    The U.S. strike came as U.S.-backed Kurdish-led forces were vying with Russian-backed Syrian troops that are reinforced by Iranian-supported militias for control of the oil-rich Deir el-Zour province.

    The Russian Defense Ministry charged that the Feb. 7 incident reflected a U.S. push to grab Syria's economic assets under the cover of fighting the Islamic State group.

    Without mentioning the U.S. strike, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov noted Tuesday that "Americans have taken dangerous unilateral steps."

    "Those steps look increasingly as part of efforts to create a quasi-state on a large part of Syrian territory — from the eastern bank of the Euphrates River all the way to the border with Iraq," he said.

    The state Tass news agency on Tuesday cited Natalya Krylova, a municipal lawmaker in the town of Asbestos in the Urals, as saying local residents Igor Kosoturov and Stanislav Matveyev were killed in Syria Wednesday.

    The Interfax news agency said that the Cossack group in the westernmost Kalningrad region said a member named Vladimir Loginov was killed in combat in the province of Deir el-Zour. It also quoted Alexander Averin, leader of extreme leftist group Another Russia, as saying that one of its activists, Kirill Ananyev, was killed by the U.S. strike near Khusham.

    Russian media also cited unconfirmed claims that overall casualties could have been as high as 200 and Russians could have accounted for the bulk of them. Those claims couldn't be verified.

    Liberal politician Grigory Yavlinsky, who is running for president in Russia's March 18 presidential election, urged Putin to come into the open regarding the deaths of Russians in Syria, saying that official silence on the subject was "unacceptable."

    "If many Russian citizens were killed, officials, including the commander-in-chief, must tell the nation about it and determine who is responsible for that," he said.

    Russia has waged a military campaign in Syria since September 2015, helping Syrian President Bashar Assad's government seize large chunks of territory and turn the tide of war into its favor.

    Russian media have reported that in addition to Russian servicemen deployed to Syria, thousands of Russians also fought there as private contractors, most serving with the so-called Wagner group. The private fighters allowed the Kremlin to keep the official death toll from its campaign in Syria low and avoid the negative public perception of its involvement in Syria as Putin is running for re-election in the March 18 vote.

    The Kremlin and the Russian Defense Ministry refused to comment on media reports on Russian private contractors in Syria.

    While the U.S. has used private contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan for years, Russian law forbids the hiring of mercenaries or working as one even though Russia has used proxies in eastern Ukraine, where it has backed pro-Moscow separatists since 2014. Some Russian lawmakers have called for legislation that would set rules for private military contractors.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/reports-r...161914917.html

    hopelijk volgen meer van dit soort massamoorden..

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    Ik heb dit elders ook gelezen, het zou waar kunnen zijn. De VS of Rusland spreken er in ieder geval publiekelijk niet over.
    Laat het wel duidelijk zijn, mocht dit waar zijn dan gaat het inderdaad om 'contractors' en niet militairen.

    Persoonlijk geloof ik dit niet trouwens, maar goed.. dat is enkel een mening.

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    Inmiddels wat meer informatie van de Russische kant. Er zijn inderdaad wat dode Russen maar dit waren geen militairen.

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    Inmiddels wat meer informatie van de Russische kant. Er zijn inderdaad wat dode Russen maar dit waren geen militairen.
    Klopt, het waren huurlingen.

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    Inmiddels wat meer informatie van de Russische kant. Er zijn inderdaad wat dode Russen maar dit waren geen militairen.
    wat dode russen??
    eerst geloof je dat niet en nu zijn het een paar dode russen.de realiteit is toch anders en hopelijk volgen er meer van dit soort massamoorden..

    600+ Russia mercenaries & Syria militiamen attacked U.S./SDF position in eastern Syria.

    The wounded were brought to military hospitals in Moscow and St. Petersburg, according to two people in contact with them, after more than 200 fighters died in last week’s failed assault on a base held by U.S.-backed forces in Syria’s eastern Deir Ezzor region. The death toll’s rising as some of the wounded succumb to their injuries, according to one of the people.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-syria-strike

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    wat dode russen??
    eerst geloof je dat niet en nu zijn het een paar dode russen.de realiteit is toch anders en hopelijk volgen er meer van dit soort massamoorden..

    600+ Russia mercenaries & Syria militiamen attacked U.S./SDF position in eastern Syria.

    The wounded were brought to military hospitals in Moscow and St. Petersburg, according to two people in contact with them, after more than 200 fighters died in last week’s failed assault on a base held by U.S.-backed forces in Syria’s eastern Deir Ezzor region. The death toll’s rising as some of the wounded succumb to their injuries, according to one of the people.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-syria-strike
    Ja, een paar dode Russen.Er zijn hooguit 10 russen die dat lot hebben ondergaan. Het Westen, noem eens iemand.

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    Ja, een paar dode Russen.Er zijn hooguit 10 russen die dat lot hebben ondergaan. Het Westen, noem eens iemand.

    The Reuters report cites an unnamed source as describing Bloomberg’s report that 300 Russians died as “broadly correct.”


    https://www.businessinsider.nl/russi...onal=true&r=US

    zoals je kunt lezen meer dan 300 en nogmaals mogen er meer volgen van dit soort massamoorden..

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    Wat is jouw mening over de azul aanval van de turken in 3afrin

    Je weet toch die mensen die jouw azul steunen
    vraag het aan de seculiere arabieren,je weet wel diegenen die jij aanbidt..
    lang leve erdogan en mogen deze seculiere stikken in hun nationalisme..

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    The Reuters report cites an unnamed source as describing Bloomberg’s report that 300 Russians died as “broadly correct.”


    https://www.businessinsider.nl/russi...onal=true&r=US

    zoals je kunt lezen meer dan 300 en nogmaals mogen er meer volgen van dit soort massamoorden..
    Deze bron heb ik wel gelezen, de vorige die je had gepost had ik niet gelezen (bewust).

    Nou goed, dan hebben de Russen de VS even getest.. ging dus niet zo lekker voor de Russen.

    Dan stel ik jou vervolgens de vraag wat er zal gebeuren als Erdogan zijn blaf omzet in een beet, wat als de Turken Manbij willen pakken? In Afrin hebben de Russen zich terug getrokken, ik geloof niet dat de VS hetzelfde zullen doen in Manbij.

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    300 Russische kindermoordenaars gedood...Het zal wel smerig hebben geroken al die verkoolde lichamen van deze kindermoordenaars die het leven zuur hebben gemaakt van weerloze vrouwen en kinderen naast de duizenden die ze al hebben gedood

    En wat doen de russische aapjes...helemaal niks. Ze ontkennen zelfs dat er meer dan 5 russische varkenssnuitjes zijn gedood. De familieleden van deze gebarbequede terroristen weten nu ongeveer wel hoe eerlijk Puta met ze is en dat ze in feite gewoon goedkoop Russisch karbonadevlees zijn

    Insh Allah volgen er meer van dit soort acties

    GO GO GO USA!!!!!