Mensen die het Arabisch goed machtig zijn

[-oushen-]

Ik heb een vraag over de volgende hadith,


عن أبي هريرة رضي الله عنه أنَّ رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: «لاتقوم الساعة حتى تنزل الروم بالأعماق -أو بدابِقَ-، فيخرج إليهم جيش من المدينة من خيار أهل الأرض يومئذ، فإذا تصافوا، قالت الروم: خلوا بينا وبين الذين سُبُوا مِنَّا نقاتلْهم، فيقول المسلمون: لا والله، كيف نُخَلِّي بينكم وبين إخواننا، فيقاتلونهم؟ فينهزم ثُلُث ولا يتوب الله عليهم أبدا، ويُقتَل ثلثُهم أفضل الشهداء عند الله، ويفتتح الثلث، لا يُفتَنون أبدا، فيفتَتحِون قسطنطينية، فبينما هم يقتسمون الغنائم، قد عَلَّقوا سُيوفَهُهْم بالزيتون، إذ صاح فيهم الشيطان: إنَّ المسيحَ الدَّجَّالَ فد خَلَفَكم في أهاليكم، فيخرجون، -وذلك باطل- فإذا جاؤوا الشام خرج، فبينا هم يُعِدِّون القتال، يُسَوُّون صفوفَهم، إذا أقيمت الصلاة، فينزل عيسى بن مريم، فأمَّهم، فإذا رآه عدو الله ذاب كما يذوب في الماء، فلو تركه لانزاب حتى يهلك، ولكن يقتله الله بيده –يعني المسيح– فيريهم دَمه في حربته». أخرجه مسلم.

Iemand beweerd bij hoog en laag dat ze hier bedoelen dat al massi7 Allah is.

Ik zeg dat ya9tulh bi yedih -ya3ni al massi7- wil zeggen dat in de tekst al massi7 de hand van Allah is voor het doden van de dajjal.

Graag een antwoord van mensen die Arabisch beheersen.


Ps, dit is de site waar de tekst is geplaatst http://https://quran-m.com/%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%88%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%A9-%D8%AD%D8%AA%D9%89-%D8%AA%D9%86%D8%B2%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%85-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%82

[Xoxi]

يقتله الله بيده –يعني المسيح


dit is shirk 100% , almasih is geen god

[Xoxi]

ten eerste يعني المسيح staat niet in al hadith , dat is toegevoegd,

[-oushen-]

Citaat door XaXi:

يقتله الله بيده –يعني المسيح


dit is shirk 100% , almasih is geen god

Geen stukje tekst isoleren, ik heb de hele hadith met toevoeging geplaatst..dat is genoeg.

Isoleren van een stukje tekst en dan je eigen tafseer eraan geven hebben wij niks aan.

[-oushen-]

Citaat door XaXi:

ten eerste يعني المسيح staat niet in al hadith , dat is toegevoegd,

Dat weten we al, het staat ook tussen 2 streepjes en ik heb het nog eens in het rood gezet..geen paniek.

[Xoxi]

Citaat door -oushen-:

Geen stukje tekst isoleren, ik heb de hele hadith met toevoeging geplaatst..dat is genoeg.

Isoleren van een stukje tekst en dan je eigen tafseer eraan geven hebben wij niks aan.

het gaat om dat stukje, ya9toloho allah met zijn hand, maw jezus,

maw is jezus god .

[-oushen-]

Citaat door XaXi:

het gaat om dat stukje, ya9toloho allah met zijn hand, maw jezus,

maw is jezus god .

Ja dat is wat jij ervan begrijpt. Correct is iets anders.

[Xoxi]

Citaat door -oushen-:

Dat weten we al, het staat ook tussen 2 streepjes en ik heb het nog eens in het rood gezet..geen paniek.

wat tussen die strepen staat , is wat rasoel sa3ws zei, dat stukje waarin staat maw masih (jezus) heeft rasoel sa3ws niet gezegd,maar staat er wel

[khattabi_bilal]

Hier is de Engelse vertaling, ik hoop dat je er wat aan hebt:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
The Last Hour would not come until the Romans would land at al-A'maq or in Dabiq. An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at that time will come from Medina (to counteract them). When they will arrange themselves in ranks, the Romans would say: Do not stand between us and those (Muslims) who took prisoners from amongst us. Let us fight with them; and the Muslims would say: Nay, by Allah, we would never get aside from you and from our brethren that you may fight them. They will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army) which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah's eye, would be killed and the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople. And as they would be busy in distributing the spoils of war (amongst themselves) after hanging their swords by the olive trees, the Satan would cry: The Dajjal has taken your place among your family. They would then come out, but it would be of no avail. And when they would come to Syria, he would come out while they would be still preparing themselves for battle drawing up the ranks. Certainly, the time of prayer shall come and then Jesus (peace be upon him) son of Mary would descend and would lead them. When the enemy of Allah would see him, it would (disappear) just as the salt dissolves itself in water and if he (Jesus) were not to confront them at all, even then it would dissolve completely, but Allah would kill them by his hand and he would show them their blood on his lance (the lance of Jesus Christ).
[ar]
حَدَّثَنِي زُهَيْرُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا مُعَلَّى بْنُ مَنْصُورٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمَانُ بْنُ بِلاَلٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُهَيْلٌ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ لاَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ حَتَّى يَنْزِلَ الرُّومُ بِالأَعْمَاقِ أَوْ بِدَابِقَ فَيَخْرُجُ إِلَيْهِمْ جَيْشٌ مِنَ الْمَدِينَةِ مِنْ خِيَارِ أَهْلِ الأَرْضِ يَوْمَئِذٍ فَإِذَا تَصَافُّوا قَالَتِ الرُّومُ خَلُّوا بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَ الَّذِينَ سَبَوْا مِنَّا نُقَاتِلْهُمْ ‏.‏ فَيَقُولُ الْمُسْلِمُونَ لاَ وَاللَّهِ لاَ نُخَلِّي بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَ إِخْوَانِنَا ‏.‏ فَيُقَاتِلُونَهُمْ فَيَنْهَزِمُ ثُلُثٌ لاَ يَتُوبُ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِمْ أَبَدًا وَيُقْتَلُ ثُلُثُهُمْ أَفْضَلُ الشُّهَدَاءِ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ وَيَفْتَتِحُ الثُّلُثُ لاَ يُفْتَنُونَ أَبَدًا فَيَفْتَتِحُونَ قُسْطُنْطِينِيَّةَ فَبَيْنَمَا هُمْ يَقْتَسِمُونَ الْغَنَائِمَ قَدْ عَلَّقُوا سُيُوفَهُمْ بِالزَّيْتُونِ إِذْ صَاحَ فِيهِمُ الشَّيْطَانُ إِنَّ الْمَسِيحَ قَدْ خَلَفَكُمْ فِي أَهْلِيكُمْ ‏.‏ فَيَخْرُجُونَ وَذَلِكَ بَاطِلٌ فَإِذَا جَاءُوا الشَّأْمَ خَرَجَ فَبَيْنَمَا هُمْ يُعِدُّونَ لِلْقِتَالِ يُسَوُّونَ الصُّفُوفَ إِذْ أُقِيمَتِ الصَّلاَةُ فَيَنْزِلُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ فَأَمَّهُمْ فَإِذَا رَآهُ عَدُوُّ اللَّهِ ذَابَ كَمَا يَذُوبُ الْمِلْحُ فِي الْمَاءِ فَلَوْ تَرَكَهُ لاَنْذَابَ حَتَّى يَهْلِكَ وَلَكِنْ يَقْتُلُهُ اللَّهُ بِيَدِهِ فَيُرِيهِمْ دَمَهُ فِي حَرْبَتِهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
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Reference : Sahih Muslim 2897

Bron: http://sunnah.com/muslim/54/44

[-oushen-]

Citaat door XaXi:

wat tussen die strepen staat , is wat rasoel sa3ws zei, dat stukje waarin staat maw masih (jezus) heeft rasoel sa3ws niet gezegd,maar staat er wel

Deze streepjes bedoel ik –يعني المسيح–

Ik heb de hadith al vaker gelezen en weet wat er wel instaat.

[Xoxi]

Citaat door khattabi_bilal:

Hier is de Engelse vertaling, ik hoop dat je er wat aan hebt:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
The Last Hour would not come until the Romans would land at al-A'maq or in Dabiq. An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at that time will come from Medina (to counteract them). When they will arrange themselves in ranks, the Romans would say: Do not stand between us and those (Muslims) who took prisoners from amongst us. Let us fight with them; and the Muslims would say: Nay, by Allah, we would never get aside from you and from our brethren that you may fight them. They will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army) which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah's eye, would be killed and the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople. And as they would be busy in distributing the spoils of war (amongst themselves) after hanging their swords by the olive trees, the Satan would cry: The Dajjal has taken your place among your family. They would then come out, but it would be of no avail. And when they would come to Syria, he would come out while they would be still preparing themselves for battle drawing up the ranks. Certainly, the time of prayer shall come and then Jesus (peace be upon him) son of Mary would descend and would lead them. When the enemy of Allah would see him, it would (disappear) just as the salt dissolves itself in water and if he (Jesus) were not to confront them at all, even then it would dissolve completely, but Allah would kill them by his hand and he would show them their blood on his lance (the lance of Jesus Christ).
[ar]
حَدَّثَنِي زُهَيْرُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا مُعَلَّى بْنُ مَنْصُورٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمَانُ بْنُ بِلاَلٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُهَيْلٌ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ لاَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ حَتَّى يَنْزِلَ الرُّومُ بِالأَعْمَاقِ أَوْ بِدَابِقَ فَيَخْرُجُ إِلَيْهِمْ جَيْشٌ مِنَ الْمَدِينَةِ مِنْ خِيَارِ أَهْلِ الأَرْضِ يَوْمَئِذٍ فَإِذَا تَصَافُّوا قَالَتِ الرُّومُ خَلُّوا بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَ الَّذِينَ سَبَوْا مِنَّا نُقَاتِلْهُمْ ‏.‏ فَيَقُولُ الْمُسْلِمُونَ لاَ وَاللَّهِ لاَ نُخَلِّي بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَ إِخْوَانِنَا ‏.‏ فَيُقَاتِلُونَهُمْ فَيَنْهَزِمُ ثُلُثٌ لاَ يَتُوبُ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِمْ أَبَدًا وَيُقْتَلُ ثُلُثُهُمْ أَفْضَلُ الشُّهَدَاءِ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ وَيَفْتَتِحُ الثُّلُثُ لاَ يُفْتَنُونَ أَبَدًا فَيَفْتَتِحُونَ قُسْطُنْطِينِيَّةَ فَبَيْنَمَا هُمْ يَقْتَسِمُونَ الْغَنَائِمَ قَدْ عَلَّقُوا سُيُوفَهُمْ بِالزَّيْتُونِ إِذْ صَاحَ فِيهِمُ الشَّيْطَانُ إِنَّ الْمَسِيحَ قَدْ خَلَفَكُمْ فِي أَهْلِيكُمْ ‏.‏ فَيَخْرُجُونَ وَذَلِكَ بَاطِلٌ فَإِذَا جَاءُوا الشَّأْمَ خَرَجَ فَبَيْنَمَا هُمْ يُعِدُّونَ لِلْقِتَالِ يُسَوُّونَ الصُّفُوفَ إِذْ أُقِيمَتِ الصَّلاَةُ فَيَنْزِلُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ فَأَمَّهُمْ فَإِذَا رَآهُ عَدُوُّ اللَّهِ ذَابَ كَمَا يَذُوبُ الْمِلْحُ فِي الْمَاءِ فَلَوْ تَرَكَهُ لاَنْذَابَ حَتَّى يَهْلِكَ وَلَكِنْ يَقْتُلُهُ اللَّهُ بِيَدِهِ فَيُرِيهِمْ دَمَهُ فِي حَرْبَتِهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
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Reference : Sahih Muslim 2897

Bron: http://sunnah.com/muslim/54/44

dit heb ik geplaatst eerder, dit is niet wat oushen plaatste

[Xoxi]

Citaat door -oushen-:

Deze streepjes bedoel ik –يعني المسيح–

Ik heb de hadith al vaker gelezen en weet wat er wel instaat.

als je dat vaker hebt gelezen, waarom plaatst je dan dat stukje waarin staat jezus is god bij , in origineel hadith staat dat niet bij???

[-oushen-]

Citaat door khattabi_bilal:

Hier is de Engelse vertaling, ik hoop dat je er wat aan hebt:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
The Last Hour would not come until the Romans would land at al-A'maq or in Dabiq. An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at that time will come from Medina (to counteract them). When they will arrange themselves in ranks, the Romans would say: Do not stand between us and those (Muslims) who took prisoners from amongst us. Let us fight with them; and the Muslims would say: Nay, by Allah, we would never get aside from you and from our brethren that you may fight them. They will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army) which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah's eye, would be killed and the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople. And as they would be busy in distributing the spoils of war (amongst themselves) after hanging their swords by the olive trees, the Satan would cry: The Dajjal has taken your place among your family. They would then come out, but it would be of no avail. And when they would come to Syria, he would come out while they would be still preparing themselves for battle drawing up the ranks. Certainly, the time of prayer shall come and then Jesus (peace be upon him) son of Mary would descend and would lead them. When the enemy of Allah would see him, it would (disappear) just as the salt dissolves itself in water and if he (Jesus) were not to confront them at all, even then it would dissolve completely, but Allah would kill them by his hand and he would show them their blood on his lance (the lance of Jesus Christ).
[ar]
حَدَّثَنِي زُهَيْرُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا مُعَلَّى بْنُ مَنْصُورٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمَانُ بْنُ بِلاَلٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُهَيْلٌ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ لاَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ حَتَّى يَنْزِلَ الرُّومُ بِالأَعْمَاقِ أَوْ بِدَابِقَ فَيَخْرُجُ إِلَيْهِمْ جَيْشٌ مِنَ الْمَدِينَةِ مِنْ خِيَارِ أَهْلِ الأَرْضِ يَوْمَئِذٍ فَإِذَا تَصَافُّوا قَالَتِ الرُّومُ خَلُّوا بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَ الَّذِينَ سَبَوْا مِنَّا نُقَاتِلْهُمْ ‏.‏ فَيَقُولُ الْمُسْلِمُونَ لاَ وَاللَّهِ لاَ نُخَلِّي بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَ إِخْوَانِنَا ‏.‏ فَيُقَاتِلُونَهُمْ فَيَنْهَزِمُ ثُلُثٌ لاَ يَتُوبُ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِمْ أَبَدًا وَيُقْتَلُ ثُلُثُهُمْ أَفْضَلُ الشُّهَدَاءِ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ وَيَفْتَتِحُ الثُّلُثُ لاَ يُفْتَنُونَ أَبَدًا فَيَفْتَتِحُونَ قُسْطُنْطِينِيَّةَ فَبَيْنَمَا هُمْ يَقْتَسِمُونَ الْغَنَائِمَ قَدْ عَلَّقُوا سُيُوفَهُمْ بِالزَّيْتُونِ إِذْ صَاحَ فِيهِمُ الشَّيْطَانُ إِنَّ الْمَسِيحَ قَدْ خَلَفَكُمْ فِي أَهْلِيكُمْ ‏.‏ فَيَخْرُجُونَ وَذَلِكَ بَاطِلٌ فَإِذَا جَاءُوا الشَّأْمَ خَرَجَ فَبَيْنَمَا هُمْ يُعِدُّونَ لِلْقِتَالِ يُسَوُّونَ الصُّفُوفَ إِذْ أُقِيمَتِ الصَّلاَةُ فَيَنْزِلُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ فَأَمَّهُمْ فَإِذَا رَآهُ عَدُوُّ اللَّهِ ذَابَ كَمَا يَذُوبُ الْمِلْحُ فِي الْمَاءِ فَلَوْ تَرَكَهُ لاَنْذَابَ حَتَّى يَهْلِكَ وَلَكِنْ يَقْتُلُهُ اللَّهُ بِيَدِهِ فَيُرِيهِمْ دَمَهُ فِي حَرْبَتِهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
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Reference : Sahih Muslim 2897

Bron: http://sunnah.com/muslim/54/44

Maak jij uit de Arabische tekst die ik heb geplaats uit dat Issa God is?

أقيمت الصلاة، فينزل عيسى بن مريم، فأمَّهم، فإذا رآه عدو الله ذاب كما يذوب في الماء، فلو تركه لانزاب حتى يهلك، ولكن يقتله الله بيده –يعني المسيح– فيريهم دَمه في حربته». أخرجه مسلم.

[Xoxi]

als je zegt god zal hem met eigen handen doden. maw jezus, dan zeg je dat jezus god is.

[Xoxi]

heeft ook geen zin te praten met azulisten over islam, azulisten hebben nooit islam aanvaard .