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19-12-2016, 18:44
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19-12-2016, 18:57
There are conditions to which attention must be paid with regard to this matter:

Not using forbidden musical instruments in nasheed.

Not doing it too much or making it the focus of the Muslim’s mind, occupying all his time, or neglecting obligatory duties because of it.

Nasheed should not be recited by women, or include haraam or obscene speech.

They should not resemble the tunes of the people of immorality and promiscuity.

They should be free of vocal effects that produce sounds like those of musical instruments.

They should not have moving tunes which make the listener feel “high” as happens to those who listen to songs. This is the case with many of the nasheeds which appear nowadays, so that the listeners no longer pay any attention to the good meaning of the words, because they are so entranced by the tunes. And Allaah is the Source of strength.

References:

Fath al-Baari, 10/553-554-562-563
Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah, 8/711
Al-Qaamoos al-Muheet,411

Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

23-12-2016, 19:31
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23-12-2016, 22:25


Sheikh Al Fawzan حفظه الله

Saying "Im listening to anashid instead of music" is like saying "I wash urine with urine."

Translated by @AbooRuqayyahAMK

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNeoR81VW6U

Daarbij zegt de shaykh dat anasheed afkomstig is van de sofies

24-12-2016, 01:02
Waar hebben jullie het over?

De tamboerijn is muziek en het is toegestaan volgens Ijmaa' van alle geleerden - alle 4 scholen staan dat toe.

Het is muziek - of is de tamboerijn een pan waar je eten in bakt?

De Profeet heeft zelf naar die muziek instrument geluisterd, zoals in Bukhari en Moslim staat.

De mannen en vrouwen zouden ook zingen in de tijd van de Salaf en Sahaba.

Er is dus niets mis met Anasheed die goede teksten hebben en muziek instrumenten zoals de tamboerijn gebruiken.

24-12-2016, 01:06

Citaat door Durani:
Waar hebben jullie het over?

De tamboerijn is muziek en het is toegestaan volgens Ijmaa' van alle geleerden - alle 4 scholen staan dat toe.

Het is muziek - of is de tamboerijn een pan waar je eten in bakt?

De Profeet heeft zelf naar die muziek instrument geluisterd, zoals in Bukhari en Moslim staat.

De mannen en vrouwen zouden ook zingen in de tijd van de Salaf en Sahaba.

Er is dus niets mis met Anasheed die goede teksten hebben en muziek instrumenten zoals de tamboerijn gebruiken.
Assalamoe alikom beste broeder,

Je hebt de waarheid gesproken.
Als iemand denkt dat nasheed haram is laat hem dan komen met de bewijzen van Allah en Zijn Profeet
salla Allaho 3alaihi wasallam, en geen praatjes van geleerden.

Urine wassen met urine zijn geen woorden uit de openbaringen.

Fi amani Alla

24-12-2016, 01:47
Ibn Baz about Anasheed
http://https://abdurrahman.org/2015/06/04/ibn-baz-about-anasheed/

Ibn Uthaymeen about Anasheed
http://https://abdurrahman.org/2015/05/23/ibn-uthaymeen-about-anasheed/

The Ruling Regarding Islamic Nasheeds By The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdul-Aziz Ahl-Shaykh
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LIcqrYTfR0

The Salaf did not used to sing Anasheed and call them as “religious” – Shaykh al Albaani
http://https://abdurrahman.org/2015/04/30/the-salaf-did-not-used-to-sing-anasheed-and-call-them-as-religious-shaykh-al-albaani/

There is nothing in Islam called as “Religious Songs” (Qasâ’id Dîniyyah) – Shaykh al-Albaani
http://https://abdurrahman.org/2015/04/28/there-is-nothing-in-islam-called-as-religious-songs-qasaid-diniyyah-shaykh-al-albaani/

Ruling on the Nasheeds (Songs) – Shaykh al-Albaani
http://https://abdurrahman.org/2015/04/23/ruling-on-the-nasheeds-songs-shaykh-al-albaani/

Nasheeds Are Bi'dah [Innovation], - The ruling regarding Islaamic Nasheeds(singing/chanting)!!

Question: Noble Shaykh, Muhammad Saalih al-'Uthaymeen, as-Salaam 'alaykum wa rahmatullaahe wa-barakaatuhu. Is Islaamic inshaad (singing/chanting) permissible for men? And is it permissible to accompany inshaad with the playing of the duff? Is inshaad permissible for other than `Eeds and parties?,

Response: In the Name of Allaah, All Gracious, All Merciful, as-Salaam 'alaykum wa rahmatullaahe wa-barakaatuhu. Islaamic inshaad is an innovation, resembling that which the Soofiyyah (Soofees) have invented. Because of this, it is befitting to abandon this for the message of the Qur.aan and Sunnah. O Allaah, were it that this had occurred on the battlefield then it would motivate courage and Jihaad in the Path of Allaah, the Almighty. Then this is good. And if the duff is used along with this, then this is (venturing) further from that which is correct. , Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen al-Bid'u wal-Muhdathaat wa maa laa Asla lahu - Page 229; Fataawa fadheelatush-Shaykh Muhammad as-Saalih al-'Uthaymeen - Volume 1, Page 134

Also...

Shaikh Zaid Al Madkhali was asked when does a man become a Hizbee? Henceforth he gave seven descriptions - from them:

حبه للأناشيد والتمثيليات ودفاعه الحار عنها وعن أهلها.

Their love for Nasheeds and plays and defending it and its people to his utmost
http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=16&Topic=6686

Are there Islamic nasheed? By Shaykh Fawzan
http://mtws.posthaven.com/are-there-islamic-nasheed-by-shaykh-fawzan

Regarding the Nasheed 'Tal'al-badru 'alaynaa' - Shaykh Saalih Al-Fawzaan
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL8Mwm7dfB8

24-12-2016, 01:59

Citaat door massin:
Assalamoe alikom beste broeder,

Je hebt de waarheid gesproken.
Als iemand denkt dat nasheed haram is laat hem dan komen met de bewijzen van Allah en Zijn Profeet
salla Allaho 3alaihi wasallam, en geen praatjes van geleerden.

Urine wassen met urine zijn geen woorden uit de openbaringen.

Fi amani Alla

Wa 'alaykum as-Salam - dat klopt.

Wij zijn niet vromer dan de Profeet:



عن محمد بن حاطب رضي الله عنه- قال: قال رسول الله - صلى الله عليه وسلم -: "[SIZE=6]فصل ما بين الحلال والحرام الدف والصوت في النكاح[/SIZE]" النسائي (3371)، الترمذي (1088)، ابن ماجة (1896)، أحمد (3/418)، وصحَّحه الحاكم ووافقه الذهبي، وحسَّنه الألباني في (إرواء الغليل 1994


De Profeet zei: "[SIZE=3]Het toegestane huwelijk wordt van het verboden (i.e. geheime) huwelijk onderscheden met het geluid van de handtrommel (doeff - tamboerijn) en de stem (i.e. gezang).[/SIZE]"

[SAHIH: "Al-Nasai" (3371), "Ibn Majah" (1896), "Ahmad" (3/418) and by "Al-Tirmidhi" (1088), who said: "Hadith Hassan.". Al-Haakim zei: "De keten is Sahih (authentiek)", en Ad-Dhahabi was het daarmee eens. Het is "Hassan" verklaard door Al-Albaani in "Irwaa al-Ghaleel", 1994).



[SIZE=6]2: Hadith:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=4] أن امرأة أتت النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فقالت[SIZE=6] يا رسول الله إني نذرت أن أضرب على رأسك بالدف قال أوفي بنذرك[/SIZE] [/SIZE]



[SIZE=3]Een vrouw kwam naar de Profeet en zei: "O boodschapper van God, ik had een eed gezworen dat ik de handtrommel boven uw hoofd zou slaan." De Profeet zei: "Vervul je eed."[/SIZE]

[SAHIH: Dit is overgeleverd in "Sunan Abu Dawud", 3312 en ook in "Musnad Ahmad" 5/353. Het is ook overgeleverd door Imam al-Tirmidhi, 3690 die zei: "Hasan Sahih Gharib". Shaykh al-Albani zei: "Hasan; de Hadith heeft een Sahih keten."]



[SIZE=6]3: Hadith:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]

جاء النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فدخل حين بني علي ، فجلس على فراشي فجعلت جويريات لنا ، [SIZE=6]يضربن بالدف[/SIZE] ويندبن من قتل من أبائي يوم بدر ، إذ قالت إحداهن : وفينا نبي يعلم ما في غد ، فقال : دعي هذا ، وقولي بالذي كنت تقولين

[/SIZE]
Roubay'i 'Bint Mou'awidh zei: "[SIZE=3]De Profeet kwam op mijn trouwdag en zat op mijn bed. Er waren ook een paar kleine meisjes die op de handtrommel (tamboerijn) sloegen en liederen ter ere van onze vaderen zongen die tijdens de slag van Badr waren gedood. Tot een van hen zei: "Onder ons is een Profeet die weet wat morgen brengt..." De Profeet onderbrak hen en zei: "Zeg dat niet, maar ga verder met wat jullie daarvoor zeiden (i.e. zongen).[/SIZE]"

[SAHIH: "Saheeh al-Bukhaari", 5147 - "Tabaqaat Ibn Sa'd", 8/328 - "Sunan Ibn Majah", 1/611 - "Sunan Abu Dawud", 4/282 - "Al-Bayhaqi", 7/288 - "Ahmad", 6/359].



[SIZE=6]4: Hadith:[/SIZE]
Nog een Hadith authentiek verklaard door Albani en anderen ("Silsilah Sahihah", 3154):


[SIZE=5]عن أنس بن مالك: (أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم مر ببعض المدينة فإذا هو بجوار[SIZE=7] يضربن بدفهن ويتغنين[/SIZE] ويقلن :
نحن جوار من بني النجار يا حبذا محمد من جار
فقال النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم الله يعلم إني لأحبكن

Found in: The Chapters on Marriage
Hadith no: 1899
Narrated: Anas bin Malik:

The Prophet (saw) passed by some part of Al-Madinah and saw some girls beating their Daff And singing, saying: "We are girls from Baniu Najjar what an excellent neighbor is Muhammad." The Prophet (saw) said: "Allah knows that you are dear to me."

أخرجه ابن ماجه (1/612 ح 1899)، والطبراني في المعجم الصغير (1/65) بنحوه وقال: "لم يروه عن عوف إلا عيسى تفرد به مصعب بن سعيد".
كلاهما من طريق: (ثنا عيسى بن يونس ثنا عوف عن ثمامة بن عبد الله عن أنس).
وقال البوصيري في مصباح الزجاجة (2/106): "هذا إسناد صحيح رجاله ثقات وبعضه من الصحيحين من حديث عائشة وفي البخاري وأصحاب السنن الأربعة من حديث الربيع بنت معوذ"
وصححه الألباني في سلسلته الصحيحة (مجلد 7 قسم 1 حديث 3154).



Nogmaals , er consensus van alle geleerden over de toegestaanheid van de tamboerijn en dat IS muziek.

Wat je op TV ziet en hoort vandaag de dag , dat is Haram want het bevat Fahsha en Munkar.

24-12-2016, 11:04
Regels omtrent de duff bij het huwelijk:
http://tauwhiedfirst.com/index.php/fiqh/huwelijk-en-scheiding/764-regels-omtrent-de-duff-bij-het-huwelijk

Wat is de duff die toegestaan is voor vrouwen op huwelijksfeesten?
http://tauwhiedfirst.com/index.php/fiqh/huwelijk-en-scheiding/209-wat-is-de-duff-die-toegestaan-is-voor-vrouwen-op-huwelijksfeesten

24-12-2016, 14:34

Citaat door AhlulHadith:
Regels omtrent de duff bij het huwelijk:
http://tauwhiedfirst.com/index.php/fiqh/huwelijk-en-scheiding/764-regels-omtrent-de-duff-bij-het-huwelijk

Wat is de duff die toegestaan is voor vrouwen op huwelijksfeesten?
http://tauwhiedfirst.com/index.php/fiqh/huwelijk-en-scheiding/209-wat-is-de-duff-die-toegestaan-is-voor-vrouwen-op-huwelijksfeesten


Wat is jullie bewijs dat:

- De tamboerijn alleen voor de vrouwen is toegestaan?
- Dat het alleen tijdens huwelijks feesten is toegestaan?
- Dat het een "kleine periode" mag gebeuren?
- Dat het geen cimbaaltjes mag hebben?

Er is geen bewijs voor deze specifications (تخصيص).

De fuqaha zeggen: أن الأصل عدم التخصيص حتى يدل عليه دليل

Er zijn opinies ja, maar ik kan ook 100den fuqaha citeren die anders beweren. Opinies zijn niet bindend om gevolgd te worden. Iedereen kan wat zeggen.

Zijn jullie mensen van Hadith (أهل الحديث) of mensen van opinies ( أهل الرأي)?

Als jullie ahl al-Hadith zijn, breng Ahadith.

24-12-2016, 14:51
When is it permissible to beat the daff?
This question is about the instrument called "the duff". This is, I believe the only instrument that was made halal for muslims to listen to. Recently I have read that there are restrictions to listening to it, such as, only women can liten to it, it should only be played at weddings and 'Eid and that in all other circumstances it is Haram. The places where I read this didn't really have any proofs or evidences. Are these true restructions and are there any more?.
Published Date: 2008-04-21
Praise be to Allaah.
Firstly:

Al-Bukhaari narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There will be among my ummah people who will regard adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments as permissible.”

This hadeeth indicates that all musical instruments are haraam, including the daff.

‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The daff is haraam, stringed instruments are haraam, drums are haraam and flutes are haraam. Narrated by al-Bayhaqi, 10/222

But there are some ahaadeeth which indicate that it is permissible to beat the daff in some circumstances, which are:

Eid, weddings, and when one who has been away returns.

The evidence is given below.

1 – It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah that Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) entered upon her and there were two girls with her during the days of Mina beating the daff, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was covering himself with his garment. Abu Bakr rebuked them, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) uncovered his face and said, “Leave them alone, O Abu Bakr, for these are the days of Eid.” That was during the days of Mina.

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 944; Muslim, 892

2 – It was narrated that al-Rubayyi’ bint Mu’awwidh ibn ‘Afra’ said: “After the consummation of my marriage, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came and sat on my bed as far from me as you are sitting now, and our little girls started beating the daff and reciting verses mourning my father, who had been killed in the battle of Badr. One of them said, ‘Among us is a Prophet who knows what will happen tomorrow.’ On that the Prophet said, ‘Omit this (saying) and keep on saying the verses which you had been saying before.’”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4852).

3 – It was narrated that Buraydah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) went out on one of his military campaigns, and when he came back, a black slave woman came and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, I vowed that if Allaah brought you back safe and sound, I would beat the daff before you and sing. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “If you vowed that, then do it, otherwise do not do it.’” So she started to beat the daff, and Abu Bakr came in whilst she was doing so. Then ‘Ali came in whilst she was beating the daff, then ‘Uthmaan came in whilst she was beating the daff, then ‘Umar came in and she threw the daff beneath her and sat on it. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “The Shaytaan is afraid of you, O ‘Umar. I was sitting and she was beating the daff, then Abu Bakr came in when she was beating the daff; then ‘Ali came in when she was beating the daff; then ‘Uthmaan came in when she was beating the daff, but when you came in, O ‘Umar, she put the daff down.”

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3690; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 2913.

These ahaadeeth indicate that it is permissible to beat the daff in these three situations. Apart from that, the principle remains that it is haraam. Some scholars made the matter broader and said that it is permissible to beat the daff when a child is born and when he is circumcised; others take the matter further and say that it is permissible on all occasions that are a cause for expressing joy, such as the recovery of a sick person and the like.

See al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah, 38/169

But it is better to limit ourselves to what was narrated in the text. And Allaah knows best.

Secondly:

The correct view is that it is not permissible to beat the daff except for women. If a man does that, he is imitating women, which is a major sin.

Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah – may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

In general, it is a well known principle of the Islamic religion that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not prescribe that the righteous men, devoted worshippers and ascetics of this ummah should gather to listen to verses of poetry chanted to the accompaniment of handclapping, rhythm sticks or daffs. It is not permissible for anyone to go beyond the limits of Islam and follow something other than that which was narrated in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, whether that has to do with inward matters or outward, whether for the common man or the elite. But the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) granted a concession for some kinds of entertainment on the occasion of weddings and the like, and he also granted a concession to women allowing them to beat the daff at weddings and on other joyous occasions. But with regard to the men of his time, none of them used to beat the daff or clap his hands, rather it was proven in al-Saheeh that he said, ‘Clapping is for women, and Tasbeeh is for men,’ and he cursed women who imitate men and men who imitate women.

Because singing, beating the daff and clapping the hands are actions of women, the salaf used to call a man who did that mukhannath (effeminate), and they used to call male singers makhaaneeth (pl. of mukhannath). This is well known.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 11/565, 566

Ibn Hajar said:

The strong (qawiy) ahaadeeth indicate that this is permissible for women, but that does not include men, because of the general meaning of the prohibition on men imitating women.

Fath al-Baari, 9/226

Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Rather the concession allowing women to use the daff is for them only. With regard to men, it is not permissible for them to do any of that, whether on weddings or on other occasions. Rather Allaah has prescribed for men to train in the instruments of war and skills needed for battle, such as shooting and horse riding, and competing in that.

Majallat al-Jaami’ah al-Islamiyyah (Magazine of the Islamic University in al-Madeenah al-Munawwarah), 3rd edition, 2nd year, Muharram, 1390 AH, p. 185, 186

And he also said:

With regard to weddings, it is prescribed to beat the daff and sing regular songs which do not call for or praise anything that is haraam. This is to be done at night, by women only, to announce the wedding and to emphasize the difference between this legitimate marriage and zina (adultery) which is done in secret, as was narrated in the saheeh Sunnah from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Al-Tabarruj wa Khataruhu (Wanton display and its dangers)

And Allaah knows best.

24-12-2016, 15:37



Citaat door yasirc:
When is it permissible to beat the daff?
This question is about the instrument called "the duff". This is, I believe the only instrument that was made halal for muslims to listen to. Recently I have read that there are restrictions to listening to it, such as, only women can liten to it, it should only be played at weddings and 'Eid and that in all other circumstances it is Haram. The places where I read this didn't really have any proofs or evidences. Are these true restructions and are there any more?.
Published Date: 2008-04-21
Praise be to Allaah.
Firstly:

Al-Bukhaari narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There will be among my ummah people who will regard adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments as permissible.”

This hadeeth indicates that all musical instruments are haraam, including the daff.

‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The daff is haraam, stringed instruments are haraam, drums are haraam and flutes are haraam. Narrated by al-Bayhaqi, 10/222

But there are some ahaadeeth which indicate that it is permissible to beat the daff in some circumstances.
De athar van Ibn Abas is:

(1) zwak, want in de keten is أبي هاشم الكوفي die niemand kent, hij is majhoel
(2) het is mawquf, dus de opinie van een Sahabi en niet openbaring (zelfs als het authentiek was)
(3) andere Sahaba hebben anders gehandeld, zoals Ibn Mas'oed en zijn metgezellen
(4) de Profeet heeft zelf de tamboerijn toegestaan
(5) de ijmaa' van de Moslim geleerden staat het toe

Wat betreft de tamboerijn , er is een Ijmaa' dat dat toegestaan is:

Al-Hattaab schrijft in ("Mawaahib Al-Jaleel", 4/7):




وهو الغربال في العرس
"De geleerden zijn het unaniem met elkaar eens over de toegestaanheid van de tamboerijn, oftewel de Ghorbaal, in huwelijken."


Lees hier: http://forums.marokko.nl/showthread.php?t=5182735&


Er is geen bewijs voor takhsis . Het zijn gewoon opinies. Qeel-wa-Qaal. Elke man heeft een opinie.

Wat telt is BEWIJS.

24-12-2016, 21:25
Had niet verwacht dat jullie hier nog op zouden reageren. Maar zo te zien zijn hier dus veel meningsverschillen over. Maar de zogenaamde ansheed die we nu kennen zoals Maher Zain is toch niet toegestaan in de islam?

24-12-2016, 21:41
Dit is pas pure Anasheed in Saoedi
Anasheed van springmuizen

http://https://youtu.be/1WlPWlVs7xk

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