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13-12-2015, 23:56
​The difference between declaring specified and unspecified people as disbelievers

Question:

"What is the difference between describing with disbelief (describing unspecified people as disbelievers based on their actions) and declaring and holding a specific individual to be a disbeliever?"

Answer:

"As for ruling with disbelief on actions (acts of worship) such as invoking other than Allah, offering sacrifices for other than Allah, seeking deliverance from other than Allah, mocking the religion and cursing the religion, then this is without a doubt disbelief by consensus (Ijmaa').

But as for the (specific) individual from whom this act occurs in the complex (hidden) affairs (Umoor (Masaail) Khafiyyah)[1] then his case needs to be closer examined; for if he is ignorant, has fallen into mistaken inference (Ta'weel) or is a blind follower, then the ruling with disbelief is averted until the affair is clarified to him, because it could be that he has a doubt (or misconception) or that he is ignorant, and thus one should not rush to make Takfeer on him until the proof has been established on him. Once the proof has been established on him and he still continues to be upon what he is upon, then one rules him with disbelief, because he no longer has an excuse.

​And similarly in a clear issue such as the prohibition of Shirk and the prohibition of Zina (sexual intercourse outside marriage), Riba (usury/interest) and Khamr (intoxicant), whoever deems them to be lawful disbelieves."[2]

Footnotes by translator:
[1] For more information regarding the difference between the clear and the complex issues please refer to the following articles:

​Is there excuse for ignorance in matters of 'Aqeedah?
Being excused for not knowing the principles and rulings of Islam
Individual takfeer can be made in clear matters without returning back to the scholars
Are the graveworshippers disbelievers even before the establishment of the proof?
Is Takfeer for everyone including the Beginners among the Students of Knowledge, or is it confined to the Senior Scholars alone?


[2] In 2013, someone published a translation of an older version of this text (from the year 1426 Hijri) under the title: "Shaykh Fawzaan clearly states that Iqaamatul-Hujjah must be made in cases of Takfeer Mu`ayyan". In the new edition (from the year 1432 Hijri) however, Shaykh Al-Fawzaan clarifies his intent with the addition of "in the complex (hidden) affairs (Umoor (Masaail) Khafiyyah)".

Shaykh Saalih bin Fawzaan Al-Fawzaan, may Allah preserve him

Translated by Salafi-Dawah.com.
Source: From the book "Ithaaf Al-Afaadhil bi Sharh Risaalah Ad-Dalaail fee Hukm Muwaalaat Ahl Al-Ishraak, the new edition of 1432 Hijri, page 271-272. For a scan of the bookcover click here, page 271 click here and page 272 click here.

The noble Shaykh Saalih A-Fawzaan, may Allah preserve him states at the beginning of the book in which he gives his permission for it to be printed: "And I renew my permission for him (meaning the noble brother Muhammad Ibn Fahd Al-Husain) to reprint it after the correction and the additional commentaries, and Allah is the One Who grants success. Written by Saalih Ibn Fawzaan Al-Fawzaan on 21/7/1432." For a scan of this introduction click here.

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14-12-2015, 00:08


Allahumma baarik, Jazzakallaahu khayran

14-12-2015, 08:22

Citaat door Salafi-Dawahcom:




Answer:

"As for ruling with disbelief on actions (acts of worship) such as invoking other than Allah, offering sacrifices for other than Allah, seeking deliverance from other than Allah, mocking the religion and cursing the religion, then this is without a doubt disbelief by consensus (Ijmaa').

Hoe zit het dan met atheisten die nergens in geloven? Daar mag je dan geen takfier op doen. Die vallen niet onder dit antwoord.

14-12-2015, 08:37

Citaat door Magrebijn:
Hoe zit het dan met atheisten die nergens in geloven? Daar mag je dan geen takfier op doen. Die vallen niet onder dit antwoord.
Een athiest is iemand die niet gelooft in Allah dus per definitie een ongelovige.
Een ongelovige is een kafier dus het is verplicht om te geloven dat hij een kafier is en dus doe je takfier op hem.

14-12-2015, 10:44



Citaat door Yazzin-:
Een athiest is iemand die niet gelooft in Allah dus per definitie een ongelovige.
Een ongelovige is een kafier dus het is verplicht om te geloven dat hij een kafier is en dus doe je takfier op hem.
En als hij dat niet doet of er aan twijfelt dan is hij een ongelovige zoals hem zonder dat we de subha van hem hoeven weg te nemen. Dan mogen we takfir ook op hem doen. Geldt ook voor degene die joden en christenen niet als kufar zien.

19-02-2016, 15:14
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