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27-07-2015, 00:17
http://www.salafitalk.com/threads/170-Shaykh-Falaah-Responds-to-Shaykh-Wasiyyullaah-s-Criticism-of-Abu-Khadeejah-Abu-Hakeem-and-the-NJ-Conference

The Shaykh mentions a question presented to Shaykh Wasiullah, and then corroborated the existence and presence of the exact text of the question, and whether the questioner is known and whether the entire answer of the Shaykh has been heard.

The Shaykh then said that the manhaj of the Sahaabah is what is to be the judge, and he quoted the verse about verifying the information of a faasiq, and then he said that one must verify the question and verify the answer.

He said that those who ask questions are of two types, one who asks in order that he may learn and one who asks in order to get a specific answer from a Shaykh which agrees what is already with him. There is a great difference between these two types of questioners.

The Shaykh then went on to mention a story of how someone raised the issue of Shaykh al-Ghunayman who had answered a particular question (mentioned in a certain way) by saying that the Ash'aris are "Ahl as-Sunnah in this subject" and which was used by them to say that he affirms the Ash'aris are from Ahl as-Sunnah. This person said to Shaykh Falah how come your Shaykh says one thing and you have written a book called "The Ash'aris are not from Ahl as-Sunnah?" So Shaykh Falah went home and phoned Shaykh al-Ghunayman and asked him I've heard you say that the Ash'aris are from Ahl al-Sunnah. After thinking for a short while Shaykh al-Ghunayman said, yes, I said that when a ruler is an Ash'ari and he announces jihad is it upon the Muslims to follow him, and he said, yes, he is to be followed, because in this arena they are considered to be Ahl al-Sunnah. Shaykh Falah said that this answer itself is taken from Ibn Taymiyyah who said the term Ahl al-Sunnah is used in two ways, general and specific. In the general sense all those who are not Raafidah are said to be Ahl al-Sunnah, but in a specific sense, it is only those who affirm the attributes etc. who are said to be Ahl al-Sunnah, (and therefore, the Ash'aris are not Ahl al-Sunnah).

The Shaykh makes the point that this is what they do, they craft a question in a very specific way to get a specific answer.

The Shaykh then addressed Shaykh Wasiullah's kalam by mentioning the saying of Imam Malik, everyones saying can be taken or rejected. The Shaykh mentioned that tathabbut has already been made (verifying the question and answer and ascribing it to Shaykh Wasiullah).

Then the Shaykh went on to explain that his speech of Wasiullah against Abu Khadeejah (and Abu Hakeem) is different to what is known by other Scholars such as himself who have known them for 10-15 years. And the speech of Shaykh Wasiullah is just mujmal (general). The Shaykh said the way of the Sahaabah and the Salaf is that only a jarh mufassar is accepted with respect to one who is known. The Shaykh asked the question whether Shaykh Wasiullah gave any detail (tafseel) in his jarh and the answer is no, meanwhile the Shaykh mentioned that Abu Khadeejah is well-known to the Scholars and has translated books and lectures, and has tapes, and that he does not know him to have translated books or tapes of bid'ah. Yet Shaykh Wasiullah said that if you were to attend this conference with Abu Khadeejah (and Abu Hakeem present and speaking) it will lead to harm upon you and upon the Salafis. Shaykh Falaah said that he knows Abu Khadeejah for 14 years and does not know of statements he made oppposing Salafiyyah.

Then the Shaykh went on to mention that Abu Khadeejah speaks about the Jam'iyyah Ahl al-Hadeeth on the issue of elections and inviting women speakers not properly dressed into their venues, and if asked are these people the ones who represent and implement Salafiyyah we say no.

But what we look at what is done at Maktabah Salafiyyah and all the lessons and what they teach and who they invite and who teaches at their mosque from the Scholars like Shaykh Abdullah al-Ghudayan, Shaykh Ubayd, Shaykh Rabee and others... and the Shaykh mentioned that once he visited Shaykh Abdullah al-Ghudayan who asked him whether he visited Birmingham and whether he knows Abu Khadeejah... so this is the type of thing that indicates Salafiyyah.

So the Shaykh said that no jarh is accepted when it is general and if it came from the Shaykh or we say to the questioner, why did you not give any detail in the question. So it is clear that the questioner is a person of objectives and if he was sincere he would not have omitted who specifically is participating in the conference, he only mentioned Abu Khadeejah and Abu Hakeem by name. So this type of thing is not desirable, the affairs should be clear, open apparent.

If it is known that Abu Khadeejah had bid'ah or war against the Salafis, the Shaykh says he would never participate with him or visit him at Maktabah Salafiyyah. So the way of the Salaf is verification, and detail, and general speech is not accepted. But there are objectives and goals and the one who asked the question ... (then there is some speech about who translated and who asked the question, that they are not the same person, that Shadeed Muhammad translated the question and answer but the questioner is someone else). The Shaykh said that the issue of tafseel, being specific and giving detail is of utmost importance.


27-07-2015, 00:27


The Shaykh mentioned again the saying of Imaam Malik that everyone can have his saying accepted or rejected, and then he said says that whilst he will not say anything in particular about Shaykh Wasiullah, as a general remark, there is no doubt that sentiments have a role to play and that he recalls that Shaykh Wasiullah always says that he has an attachment with Ahl al-Hadeeth, that he is from them, from their sons, or from their school, in India, then these no doubt have a role and an effect and we say may Allaah pardon him, and that if we were with him, by Allaah, we would request him to answer, what is this harm that has reached the Salafis and Salafiyyah from Abu Khadeejah, give me just a single example. Yes, if he said, here is one, two, three examples, fine, but with this general speech, it is not permissible to accept his speech at all, in any situation.

And the issue of he harms Salafiyyah, or has enmity to Salafiyyah and so on, then what he has written and said and so on should be brought and looked at but as for these types of tumult and commotion being raised, they will never end and if it is the case that Imaam Malik said what he said in his time, it is even more worthy of being said now.

I advise all the people to advise the conference, and if there is anything, we can debate, discuss, we don't have anything, all of us can speak. He then mentioned the statement of al-Awzaaee, "Stop where the people stopped (i.e. the Companions) and speak with what they spoke and hold back from what they held back from," and in a narration, "remain silent from what they remained silent about" so this is what you should implement and if you do not, then you will depart from the Jamaa'ah.

The Shaykh said that we certainly accept clarification of error, but myself and likewise Abu Khadeejah. He mentioned the saying of Umar, "may Allaah have mercy to a man who guided me to my errors," and he said this is what the Companions are upon and this is what we likewise are upon, so if you bring the issues in which Abu Khadeejah has erred, then I myself personally will debate with him.

The Shaykh was then asked about those spread and distribute this speech of Shaykh Wasiullah. He said that such a person has opposed the manhaj of the Companions, it is opposed to the way of the Companions because he gave precedence to the general disparagement. The Shaykh then speaks to Abu Khadeejah who is the gathering, and asks how many books he has translated and how many cassettes he has. The Shaykh said that if we were speaking about a person who does not have any books or any tapes and is hardly known, maybe we can accept the jarh mujmal (general disparagement), but when a person is present, known for 14 years, has written, has books, tapes and then we just accept a general disparagement, this is but a manifestation of madness.

But why do they spread it? Because there is a goal, objective. So we say fear Allaah, if you are Salafis, then books and tapes of Abu Khadeejah are present, read them and find errors in them, but in this manner, with a jarh mujmal then this is not acceptable, if you claim to be Salafis, then Salafiyyah is clear and apparent.

The Shaykh then mentions about Shaykh al-Albani about a man who wrote a book and he was a student of Abdur Rahman Abdul-Khaliq, but it may well have been Abdur Rahman Abdul-Khaliq himself, and he spoke of the Jaamiyyah and Madkhaliyyah and the Mandakariyyah, that these are the "claimaints of Salafiyyah." This person said about them, "Khawarij with the callers, Murji'ah with the rulers, Rafidah with the .... etc" So this was taken to Shaykh al-Albani and read it to him directly, the Shaykh said, "He has destroyed his own house... how can they be Murji'ah and Khawarij at the same time and Raafidah, who can they combine between all this." Then Shaykh al-Albani said "This person who wrote this is one of two types, either an ignoramus, so we ask Allaah to guide him and that he learns, or he is a person of desires, so I ask Allaah to break his back."

So we say to the one who spread this (speech of Shaykh Wasiullah) that Abu Khadeejah is present, his books and cassettes are present, and he will be at the conference, so come and give us examples of where he wars against the Salafis and Salafiyyah. As for spreading it, then we ask Allaah to guide you or as our Shaykh (al-Albaanee) said, that He breaks your back and relieves the Salafis and Salafiyyah of you.


07-08-2015, 20:15
Where did Abu Khadeejah study?

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ziy6VuJSDU4

Defense of Abu Khadeejah- Shaykh Muhammad ibn Hadi

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TZ8C4efSgw

"Muhammad Ibn Hadi Al-Madkhali is from the Best of the `Ulema" - Shaykh Ahmad An-Najmi"

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhaUpUyLgeg

On Friday, the 25th of June 2010 (14 Rajab 1431H), the following question was posed to the Shaykh al-‘Allaamah Rabee’ Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee: “O Shaykh, as you are aware, there are no scholars in Britain, but is there anyone residing there that you advise us with, who can connect us to the people of knowledge?”The Shaykh, may Allaah preserve him, mentioned: Our brother Hasan as-Somali (who was present in the gathering), Abu Khadeejah and his companion (Abu Hakeem).

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=11256

Furthermore it is established from the Shaykh al-Anjaree that he has said : Indeed al-Maktabatus-Salafiyyah(Salafi Publications) is a blessed Maktabah, and I have taught there on numerous occasions over several years. I do not know them except to be upon the correct way and the correct methodology and the Sunnah up until this day.

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=5602

Shaykh Falaah Ibn Ismail Responds to Shaykh Wasiyyullaah' Criticism of Abu Khadeejah

http://www.salafitalk.com/threads/170-Shaykh-Falaah-Responds-to-Shaykh-Wasiyyullaah-s-Criticism-of-Abu-Khadeejah-Abu-Hakeem-and-the-NJ-Conference

A Reply to the Accusations against Salafi Publications and those who Narrated Falsehood to Shaikh WasiýUllaah Abbaas

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=6292

5/5 Shaykh Wasiullah Critisizing Abu Khadeejah Abu Hakeem Salafi Publications, based upon Evidence?

http://https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HdDcAc1DGDM

5/5 Shaykh Wasiullah Critisizing Abu Khadeejah Abu Hakeem Salafi Publications, based upon Evidence?

http://https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HdDcAc1DGDM

Destroying the doubt that “ Shaykh Wasiullah Criticises Abu Khadeejah & Spub" By Anwar Wright[/SIZE]

http://https://m.youtube.com/results?q=abu+khadeejah+on+waisullah&sm=1

07-08-2015, 20:25

Citaat door AboeSeliena:
Dit zijn de zittingen met Shaykh Wasi' Ollaah, Hafidahoellaah:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjhduv_shaykh-wasiullah-abbas-meeting-with-spubs-2004-part-1_people
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjhe78_shaykh-wasiullah-abbas-meeting-with-spubs-2004-part-2_people
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjheij_shaykh-wasiullah-abbas-meeting-with-spubs-2004-part-3_people
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjheui_shaykh-wasiullah-abbas-meeting-with-spubs-2004-part-4_people
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjhf75_shaykh-wasiullah-abbas-meeting-with-spubs-2004-part-5_people
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjhg2n_shaykh-wasiullah-abbas-meeting-with-spubs-2004-part-6_people

Allaahoel Moesta3aan.
Ik ben benieuwd wat Abu Khadija te zeggen heeft, het lijkt erop als hij gelogen heeft in deze zaak.
Dat hij een kathaab en een la3aab is, is iets dat duidelijk is.
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02-09-2015, 16:33



Citaat door AboeSeliena:
Dit zijn de zittingen met Shaykh Wasi' Ollaah, Hafidahoellaah:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjhduv_shaykh-wasiullah-abbas-meeting-with-spubs-2004-part-1_people
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjhe78_shaykh-wasiullah-abbas-meeting-with-spubs-2004-part-2_people
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjheij_shaykh-wasiullah-abbas-meeting-with-spubs-2004-part-3_people
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjheui_shaykh-wasiullah-abbas-meeting-with-spubs-2004-part-4_people
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjhf75_shaykh-wasiullah-abbas-meeting-with-spubs-2004-part-5_people
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjhg2n_shaykh-wasiullah-abbas-meeting-with-spubs-2004-part-6_people

Allaahoel Moesta3aan.
Ik ben benieuwd wat Abu Khadija te zeggen heeft, het lijkt erop als hij gelogen heeft in deze zaak.
Dat hij een kathaab en een la3aab is, is iets dat duidelijk is.
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15-10-2015, 22:11

Citaat door A_bdars:

For a response to some of today’s confused preachers who seem to think that the Jamaa’ah is the group of Muslims that only calls themselves “the Muslims” and nothing else, read this.

[6] Collected by Imaam al-Laalakaa’ee in Sharh Usool Ali’tiqaad (#160).

[7] The great Companion Ibn Mas’ood died in the year 32, during the Caliphate of ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan (may Allaah be pleased with both of them). He told his student, ‘Amr ibn Maymoon, “Verily, the majority of the people are the ones splitting away from the Jamaa’ah! Verily, the Jamaa’ah is what is in accordance with the Truth, even if you were alone (i.e. the only one upon the Truth).” It was reported by al-Laalakaa’ee in Sharh Usool Ali’tiqaad (no.160), and Ibn al-Qayyim quoted it in I’laam al-Muwaqqi’een (5/388).

[8] For examples, review Soorah Hood (11:25-49) and Soorah Nooh (71:1-28).

[9] The Sawaad A’tham (السواد الأعظم) is a phrase that means “the main body” or “the huge gathering”. It is used by the scholars as a synonym for the Jamaa’ah.

[10] Imaam Ibn al-Qayyim said in I’laam al-Muwaqqi’een (5/389): “All of the people were in contradiction (to the Truth) in the time of Ahmad ibn Hanbal, except for a small group. They were the Jamaa’ah themselves (of that time). The judges, the muftees, and the Caliph of that time and his followers were all in opposition (to the Truth). It was Imaam Ahmad by himself who was the Jamaa’ah!”

[11] I’laam al-Muwaqqi’een (5/389)

[12] Note: This does not necessitate that Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah must always be a minority. They have had strong points in history, and the very Sunnah of Allaah within the creation is that the level of guidance among His servants fluxuates, due to the Wisdom He chooses to test His servants with. People revive and renew Islamic beliefs and practices periodically (at the head of every century, for example, as established in authentic narrations).

In the reality that we live in, consider the condition of the Muslims today, and how the Ash’arees alone claim – for example – to make up the vast majority of today’s Muslims. (This claim is not established in reality.) Consider the reality of the spread of innovation and how many Muslims attach themselves to it, whether it be Khurooj, Shiasm, Soofism, Ikhwanism, Ash’arism, etc., and this is while many of them make claims that they are from Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah. The reality of their beliefs and practices is so commonly in contrast to the claims and the labels.

[13] Faydh al-Qadeer (2/21)

http://www.bakkah.net/en/avoiding-the-misguided-sects-the-prophetic-solution.htm

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15-10-2015, 22:19
[video=youtube;rEVfkq26eTg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEVfkq26eTg[/video]

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