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14-01-2014, 15:07
Zelfkastijding en kindermishandeling

[disclaimer]: De inhoudt van deze topic is niet berust op de Islaam of diens schriften. Het is gestoeld op het [B]Shi'isme en de Shi'itische geleerden.[/B]

Bismillah,



Een veelvoorkomend antwoord van de Shi’a op de vraag waarom ze zichzelf slaan.

”Nee, maar wij slaan ons niet, dat doen wij niet…wij hebben niets met bloed, in kinderen snijden…neee hoor, dat is verboden..”

Grootayatullah Shirazi:



Zijn biografie: http://www.jafariyxxxxx.com/july2k2/6shirazi_bio.htm

Shi’s Grootayatullah Shirazi over ”Azadari” en het mishandelen en laten bloeden van kinderen:

جرح الأطفال بالرؤوس لعزاء أبي عبدالله الحسين سلام الله عليه
بعض النساء في محرم يقمن بجرح أطفالهن الذين تتراوح أعمارهم بين السنة و السنتين في رؤسهم مواساة لأبي عبدالله الحسين عليه السلام فهل عملهن هذا جائز؟

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نعم جائز، بل هو مستحب، مع رضا الأب أو الجد لأنه تمرين للأطفال على حبّ آل الرسول الذين أمر الله بمودتهم، وتعزيزاً لروح المواساة لسبط النبي صلى الله عليه وآله فيهم، مضافاً إلى ما فيه من خواصّ الحجامة في الرأس التي سمّاها الرسول صلى الله عليه وآله بالمنقذة من الموت.

Vraag: ”Sommige vrouwen snijden de hoofden van hun kinderen van 1 of 2 jaar ter nagedachtenis van Abi Abdallah, is dit toegestaan?”

Antwoord: ”Ja het is toegestaan, sterker nog, het is aangeraden met de toestemming van de vader of opa van het kind. Het is een aanleiding om liefde te ontwikkelen voor de Ahl al Bayt”

http://s-alshirazi.com/masael/subject/shaaer/letter1.htm [Officiële website]

De volgende is Ayatullah Muhammad Rohani, Shi’a grootgeleerde van dit tijdperk:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadeq_Rohani

Een leerling van Allamah Tabatabaei, Shi’a auteur van Tafsir al Mizaan, en deze ”Rohani” kreeg zijn diploma van niemand minder dan Ayatullah Kho’i, de grondlegger van de Marji’a van Najaf.

En nu zijn fatwa:

سوال:
هل للأب ولاية على الولد الصغير بأن يجرح رأس ولده حتى خرج الدم (التطبير) في اليوم العاشر من المحرم ؟

ماذا لو كان الولد صغيراً جداً ؟ و اذا كان ذلك غير جائز أفيدونا بالدليل ؟

الجواب: باسمه جلت اسمائه
بإسمه جلت أسمائه

عمل حسن زايدا على الجواز بشرط مراعاة ان لا يترتب على التطبير هلاکة النفس و فلج عضو من اعضاء الطفل.

Vraag: ”Heeft een vader de autoriteit om het hoofd van zijn kind te snijden Op de tiende dag van Muharram tot bloed hieruit vloeit al is het kind nog een baby? Als dit niet is toegestaan, gelieve met bewijzen’

Antwoord: ”Het is een aangeraden daad. Eentje die normale regelgeving te boven gaat en op voorwaarde dat het snijden niet gepaard gaat in de dood van het kind of met het niet meer werken van zijn botten”
http://istefta.com/question/3690 [Officiële website]







De volgende grootgeleerden van de Shi’a hebben dit eveneens goedgekeurd:

Shi’a website: jafariyxxxxx.com

Grand Ayatullah ash-Sheikh Muhammad Hussain an-Naa’ini

(The teacher of the Marajay of the holy city of Najaf)

“There is no doubt as to the permissibility of the beating of the chest and the face with the hands to the point of redness or blackness (of the chest or the face). This is also extended to the lashing of the shoulders and the back with chains to the extent mentioned (above), and even if this led to bleeding. As for causing the bleeding of the head by sword beating, this is also allowed provided it does not lead to endangering harm, such as unstoppable bleeding or harm to the scull, etc. as it is known amongst the experts in doing this (hitting on the head).”

The above Fatwa by Grand Ayatullah ash-Sheikh Muhammad Hussain an-Naa’ini was endorsed and signed by the following eminent Marajay:

Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Seyyid Mohsen al-Hakim,
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Seyyid Muhammad Kaadhem al-Shari’at Madari,
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Seyyid Abd-el-A’la as-Sabzewary,
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Seyyid Abul-Qassim al-Kho’i,
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Seyyid Muhammad Ridha al-Gulpaygani,
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Seyyid Ali al-Hussaini as-Seestani,
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Seyyid Muhammad Saadiq ar-Rouhani,
Ayatullah al-Udhma al-Mirza Jawaad al-Tabrizi,
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Sheikh Hussain al-Waheed al-Khurasani
And many other Maraje’ and eminent scholars…

Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid al-Kho’i

(The former leader of the Hawzah of the holy city of Najaf)

Question: Is there any problem with causing the bleeding of the head – TATBIR – as it is practiced, to express one’s grief about the martyrdom of our Imam Hussain peace be upon him, assuming there is going to be no permanent harm?

Answer:[COLOR="#FF0000"] There is no problem with that,[/COLOR] given the assumption made in the question, and Allah knows best.

Question: You stated that there is no problem in causing the bleeding of the head – known as TATBIR – if it does not lead to harm. It is said that it is not more than a permissible act, then can TATBIR be MUSTAHAB – desirable – if the intention was the upholding and honouring the Sha’a’er – signs of Allah – and sympathy with the Ahl-ul-Bayt, peace be upon them?

Answer: Most probably Allah Almighty would give thawab – reward (the individual) – for sympathising with the Ahl-ul-Bayt if the intention is sincere.

Grand Ayatullah as-Seyyid ash-Shirazi

Question: Some individuals say that I do not see shedding my tears as enough to express my grief for Imam Hussain (AS), his household and his followers on the day of Ashura. So is hitting myself with sword and injuring myself is allowed?

Answer: The Hussaini Sha’a’er, including TATBIR, are some of the RAAJIH issues. TATBIR is a MUSTAHAB deed, unless it leads to death, loss of limb, or loss of faculties. (RAAJIH means MUSTAHAB that could become WAJIB depending on the circumstances – translator.).

Question: What is your opinion regarding hitting the head with sword – TATBIR – on the day of Ashura whether or not it harms the individual.

Answer: The most common and widely known opinion of the Fuqaha (scholars) is that the desirability (of TATBIR) is in it not being extremely harmful.

Question: What is your opinion regarding the reports that Lady Zaynab peace be upon her, when she saw the head of her brother Imam Hussain peace be upon him, being paraded in public hit her forehead on the bar of the carriage she was travelling in, causing bleeding to flow from beneath her veil, which was visible to onlookers who witnessed the event?

Answer: Yes that is proven.

{Some of the famous references, which confirm the above report, are as follows:
Bihaar al-Anwaar; volume 45, page 114,
Jalaa’ al-‘Oyun; volume 2, page 238,
Zaynab al-Kubra; page 112,
Asraar ash-Shahadah; page 474,

Al-Muntakhab; volume 2, page 478,
Nusrat-ul-Madhlum; page 18

Needless to say that ‘Allamah al-Majlisi – compiler of Bihaar al-Anwaar – and Sheikh al-Shari’ah al-Isfahani have confirmed the authenticity of the report.}

Ayatullah ash-Sheikh Abdul Kareem al-Ha’ery

14-01-2014, 15:07


(The Founder of the current Hawzah in the holy city of Qum)

“The hitting of swords on the heads (causing bleeding) is alright (allowed) provided there is no harm to the person doing this. Furthermore no one has the right to prohibit this (hitting the head with sword). In fact all kinds of TA’ZIAH – mourning – for SEYYED ASH-SHUHADA’ Imam Hussain may our souls be sacrificed for him, are MUSTAHAB – desirable deeds.”

The above Fatwa by Ayatullah ash-Sheikh Abdul Kareem al-Ha’ery was endorsed and signed by the following eminent Marajay:
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Sheikh Muhammad al-Araki,
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Seyyid Muhammad Ridha al-Gulpaygani,
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Seyyid Shahab-el-Deen al-Mar’ashi al-Najafi,
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Seyyid Hassan al-Tabataba’e al-Qummi,
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Seyyid Muhammad al-Waheedi,
Ayatullah al-Udhma al-Mirza Jawaad al-Tabrizi,
Ayatullah al-Udhma as-Seyyid Muhammad Saadiq al-Rouhani,
Ayatullah al-Udhma Muhammad Mahdi al-Lankaroudi
And many other Marajay and eminent scholars …

Grand Ayatullah Abul Hassan Asfahani

Grand Ayatullah Abul Hassan Asfahani is that greatly respected and honoured figure who was once asked by some muqasereen type people to give Fatwa (verdict) saying that mourners have crossed the limits in performing Azadari-e-Madhloom (perhaps they mean hitting back and shoulders with rzaers and head with swords).

On this the Ayatullah said: Az Madar-e-Hussain mee tarsem (I fear Hussain’s mother). This matter is between Hussain and his mourners.

(This event and these words have been heard by Ulama-e-Karam and it is the talk of town).

Grand Ayatullah as-Seyyid as-Seestani

(The current leader of the Hawzah of the holy city of Najaf)

Question: What is the ruling regarding the lashing with chains, chest beating, and walking on fire on the occasion of mourning the martyrdom of Imam Hussain peace be upon him?

Answer: If (these are) not associated with extreme harm or loss of limb, [COLOR="#FF0000"][COLOR="#FF0000"]there is no objection[/COLOR][/COLOR].

BRON: http://www.jafariyxxxxx.com/articles/2k4/28feb_azadariverdicts.htm



Hier is niets meer aan toe te voegen. Geen weldenkend persoon, laat staan een Moslim die claimt Allah en zijn Profeet te gehoorzamen zal vastklampen aan een verdorven geloof zoals het Shi’isme.


Ondertussen is deze sekte bezig in Nederland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ysrf3jAZ08

15-01-2014, 13:27
Die zijn doorgedraaid en echt dwalend