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10-07-2012, 14:56
Turkish missile maker delivers rockets to army



Turkey’s missile maker Roketsan has delivered 100 laser-guided 70 mm rocket systems to the Turkish military, a defense source has told the Hürriyet Daily News.

Roketsan will produce a total of 2000 “Cirits” for the Turkish military, the source said.

Cirit is one of the projects launched by Turkey to equip the Turkish army’s T-129 Atak, AH-1P Cobra and AH-1W Super Cobra attack helicopters with low-cost precision strike capabilities.

French-German Helicopter company Eurocopter has selected Cirit for the execution of a test and integration program to equip the Eurocopter EC635.

The rocket’s name comes from a traditional Turkish horseback game, Cirit, where two teams of riders fight a mock battle using wooden javelins.

Cirit is considered a next generation 70 mm guided rocket system fitted with a semi-active laser homing seeker.

70 mm rocket systems have been in use since the Vietnam War for their anti-personnel and incendiary effects. The Cirit rockets have a maximum effective guided range of 8 km, with a high probability of a hit on a 3x3 meter moving target at this range.


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-missile-maker-delivers-rockets-to-army.aspx?pageID=238&nID=25137&NewsCatID=344

10-07-2012, 14:59


Roketsan is trouwens ook bezig om raketten te produceren die 2500 km kunnen reizen.

zie:

Turkish missiles over Brussels, Paris, Berlin, Rome (and others)




The Ottoman siege of Vienna may have failed in 1683. But the Turks will soon be back at the gates (well, this time, the skies) of Europe.

Much to the pride of millions of Turks, the state scientific research institute, TÜBITAK, recently reported that its scientists this year would finish an all-Turkish missile with a range of 1,500 km, and, in 2014, another with a range of 2,500 km (no typo here).

The head of TÜBITAK said the order for the missile program had come from Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

I read daily Hürriyet quoting TÜBITAK’s president, Professor Yücel Altınbaşak, as saying that “this is a most realistic project.” And I watched an engineer from TÜBITAK’s missile project group, telling state television channel TRT that “the Turkish missiles were more advanced than the U.S. or German missiles.” I felt proud.

Yet I was curious and checked the world map. Put the country which claims to maintain zero problems with its neighbors and others at the epicenter of a circle with a diameter of 2,500 km, and here are some of the cities which may in the future see Turkish missiles over their skies: Athens, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Berlin, Beirut, Brussels, Geneva, Algiers, Jeddah, Cairo, Copenhagen, Kiev, London, Milan, Moscow, Paris, Rome, Stockholm, Damascus, Tehran, Tel Aviv, Tripoli, Warsaw, Vienna, Zurich and Amman.

I failed to guess which one(s) of these cities could be a security threat to Turkey in the future. But apparently, the Turco-Persian sectarian rivalry is heating up as Tehran already has the 1,300-km Shahab-3 missiles in its inventory. In any case, the move is just another indication that Turkey does not see its future within the largely inter-operable NATO and European security structures.

Contrary to common knowledge, ballistic missiles often lack precision, can be intercepted and can carry limited payload (an average 500-1,000 kg). In comparison, a conventional F-16 fighter can carry a payload that if four or five times bigger and is considered an agile war asset. There is a big “but” here. Rogue states often tend to opt for missiles, calculating that these war toys can also carry biological, chemical and nuclear warheads.

And the big question here is why should Turkey, which boasts a modern air force with highly deterrent firepower, need ballistic or cruise missiles? With which countries within a diameter of 2,500 km does Turkey think it may, in the future, have to battle? Which targets within a range of 2,500 kilometers may it hope to hit which it cannot with a 1,000-km missile?

What justifies the earmarking of – possibly – hundreds of millions of dollars worth of taxpayer money for the Turkish missiles? Are biological, chemical or nuclear weapons in Turkey’s various contingency plans for future warfare? What’s the point of NATO membership, then? Does Turkey intend to leave the alliance? More importantly, what are the political deliberations behind this ambitious plan?

With a delay of a few decades, Turkey is going along the path that countries like North Korea, Libya and Iraq tried in the 1990s – and Iran in the last decade. In fact, observers have invariably suspected a strong link between Iran’s ambitions for missiles and a future nuclear weapons program.
For the moment, New York, Beijing, Seoul, Brasilia, Ottawa and Tokyo look safe and immune to future Turkish anger. But give Mr. Erdoğan another 10 years in power and Turkey might have another one with a range of 15,000 km by then.

There are a couple of minor problems, though. Since Turkey is a signatory to the Missile Technology Control Regime, it may now find more difficult access to some of the “ingredients” necessary to make a missile.

Second, I am not sure whether the punishing Turkish missile should be dubbed the Attila, or the Sultan Mehmed II. Third, and on a less significant basis, one triviality about the future Turkish ballistic missile could be that once shot and targeting, say, Tel Aviv, it may just be last seen over the skies of Edirne…

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-missiles-over-brussels-paris-berlin-rome-and-others-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=11855&NewsCatID=398







Bereik raketten die vanuit Turkije afgevuurd zullen worden:


10-07-2012, 15:43

Citaat door AliUitBombali:
Roketsan is trouwens ook bezig om raketten te produceren die 2500 km kunnen reizen.

zie:

Turkish missiles over Brussels, Paris, Berlin, Rome (and others)




The Ottoman siege of Vienna may have failed in 1683. But the Turks will soon be back at the gates (well, this time, the skies) of Europe.

Much to the pride of millions of Turks, the state scientific research institute, TÜBITAK, recently reported that its scientists this year would finish an all-Turkish missile with a range of 1,500 km, and, in 2014, another with a range of 2,500 km (no typo here).

The head of TÜBITAK said the order for the missile program had come from Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

I read daily Hürriyet quoting TÜBITAK’s president, Professor Yücel Altınbaşak, as saying that “this is a most realistic project.” And I watched an engineer from TÜBITAK’s missile project group, telling state television channel TRT that “the Turkish missiles were more advanced than the U.S. or German missiles.” I felt proud.

Yet I was curious and checked the world map. Put the country which claims to maintain zero problems with its neighbors and others at the epicenter of a circle with a diameter of 2,500 km, and here are some of the cities which may in the future see Turkish missiles over their skies: Athens, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Berlin, Beirut, Brussels, Geneva, Algiers, Jeddah, Cairo, Copenhagen, Kiev, London, Milan, Moscow, Paris, Rome, Stockholm, Damascus, Tehran, Tel Aviv, Tripoli, Warsaw, Vienna, Zurich and Amman.

I failed to guess which one(s) of these cities could be a security threat to Turkey in the future. But apparently, the Turco-Persian sectarian rivalry is heating up as Tehran already has the 1,300-km Shahab-3 missiles in its inventory. In any case, the move is just another indication that Turkey does not see its future within the largely inter-operable NATO and European security structures.

Contrary to common knowledge, ballistic missiles often lack precision, can be intercepted and can carry limited payload (an average 500-1,000 kg). In comparison, a conventional F-16 fighter can carry a payload that if four or five times bigger and is considered an agile war asset. There is a big “but” here. Rogue states often tend to opt for missiles, calculating that these war toys can also carry biological, chemical and nuclear warheads.

And the big question here is why should Turkey, which boasts a modern air force with highly deterrent firepower, need ballistic or cruise missiles? With which countries within a diameter of 2,500 km does Turkey think it may, in the future, have to battle? Which targets within a range of 2,500 kilometers may it hope to hit which it cannot with a 1,000-km missile?

What justifies the earmarking of – possibly – hundreds of millions of dollars worth of taxpayer money for the Turkish missiles? Are biological, chemical or nuclear weapons in Turkey’s various contingency plans for future warfare? What’s the point of NATO membership, then? Does Turkey intend to leave the alliance? More importantly, what are the political deliberations behind this ambitious plan?

With a delay of a few decades, Turkey is going along the path that countries like North Korea, Libya and Iraq tried in the 1990s – and Iran in the last decade. In fact, observers have invariably suspected a strong link between Iran’s ambitions for missiles and a future nuclear weapons program.
For the moment, New York, Beijing, Seoul, Brasilia, Ottawa and Tokyo look safe and immune to future Turkish anger. But give Mr. Erdoğan another 10 years in power and Turkey might have another one with a range of 15,000 km by then.

There are a couple of minor problems, though. Since Turkey is a signatory to the Missile Technology Control Regime, it may now find more difficult access to some of the “ingredients” necessary to make a missile.

Second, I am not sure whether the punishing Turkish missile should be dubbed the Attila, or the Sultan Mehmed II. Third, and on a less significant basis, one triviality about the future Turkish ballistic missile could be that once shot and targeting, say, Tel Aviv, it may just be last seen over the skies of Edirne…

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-missiles-over-brussels-paris-berlin-rome-and-others-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=11855&NewsCatID=398







Bereik raketten die vanuit Turkije afgevuurd zullen worden:

Ben ik blij dat portugal tenminste veilig is

10-07-2012, 15:46

Citaat door abu3uqba:
Ben ik blij dat portugal tenminste veilig is
Binnenkort , nadat de dictators en koningen zijn vernietigd zullen de moslims weer herenigen. Dan kunnen we die raketten in elke moslim land stationeren met kernkoppen erop gemonteerd

Van Indonesië tot aan Marokko.

10-07-2012, 16:01


maar gelukkig voort pkk gorilla oorlog tegen turkij en wordt turkij communistisch

10-07-2012, 16:42

Citaat door AliUitBombali:
Binnenkort , nadat de dictators en koningen zijn vernietigd zullen de moslims weer herenigen. Dan kunnen we die raketten in elke moslim land stationeren met kernkoppen erop gemonteerd

Van Indonesië tot aan Marokko.
pfff, lang voordat dat gebeurt zal de Rusland, China, de VS en Europa haar kernwapen-arsenaal inzetten om die islamitische dreiging voor eens en altijd te neutraliseren. Uiteraard zal de nadruk op neutronenbommen liggen, deze zijn minder vervuilend, en laten de infrastructuur grotendeels in tact, wat nodig is om de laatste beetjes olie op te pompen.

7.5 miljard aardbewoners, 99% van alle kernwapens, 80% van al het militair materieel, en daar tegenover 1.5 miljard mafkezen op een kameel.

dat ga je niet winnen, AliBombari

10-07-2012, 16:59

Citaat door Abjectief:
pfff, lang voordat dat gebeurt zal de Rusland, China, de VS en Europa haar kernwapen-arsenaal inzetten om die islamitische dreiging voor eens en altijd te neutraliseren. Uiteraard zal de nadruk op neutronenbommen liggen, deze zijn minder vervuilend, en laten de infrastructuur grotendeels in tact, wat nodig is om de laatste beetjes olie op te pompen.

7.5 miljard aardbewoners, 99% van alle kernwapens, 80% van al het militair materieel, en daar tegenover 1.5 miljard mafkezen op een kameel.

dat ga je niet winnen, AliBombari
Het is voorlopig , de westen tegen het oosten. Westerse wereld =1.5 miljard man , Oosterse wereld = 5.5 miljard man

10-07-2012, 17:00

Citaat door Abjectief:
pfff, lang voordat dat gebeurt zal de Rusland, China, de VS en Europa haar kernwapen-arsenaal inzetten om die islamitische dreiging voor eens en altijd te neutraliseren. Uiteraard zal de nadruk op neutronenbommen liggen, deze zijn minder vervuilend, en laten de infrastructuur grotendeels in tact, wat nodig is om de laatste beetjes olie op te pompen.

7.5 miljard aardbewoners, 99% van alle kernwapens, 80% van al het militair materieel, en daar tegenover 1.5 miljard mafkezen op een kameel.

dat ga je niet winnen, AliBombari
Ps, ik zeg niet dat wij die gaan gebruiken , maar wel gewoon in onze voorraad houden. Als een land ons met kernwapens aanvalt , vallen wij gewoon terug aan.

10-07-2012, 17:39

Citaat door AliUitBombali:
Ps, ik zeg niet dat wij die gaan gebruiken , maar wel gewoon in onze voorraad houden. Als een land ons met kernwapens aanvalt , vallen wij gewoon terug aan.
dan ben je te laat

10-07-2012, 17:41

Citaat door nomrc:
dan ben je te laat
Niet als je onderzeeboten hebt met nucleaire kernladingen erin