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22-10-2010, 17:59
DECLARATION ON MUSLIMS AND 9/11

A. On the basis of the study “No evidence that Muslims hijacked planes on 9/11″ by Elias Davidsson (2008), that we have carefully examined, and other similar studies, we undersigned are now convinced that the U.S. authorities did not prove [beyond reasonable doubtx] their account on the mass murder of September 11, 2001, in particular their claim that Muslims/Arabs committed this crime.

B. The presumption of innocence, as a civilised principle, is enshrined in Article 11 (1) of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, according to which, every person “charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law (&hellip” While the presumption of innocence was particularly drafted to protect the rights of persons already charged of a penal offence, it evidently applies to persons who have not even been formally accused of any offence.

C. On the basis of the above findings, we consider the publication and dissemination of the allegation that Muslim/Arabs committed the mass murder of 9/11, as a grievous and unconscionable form of character assassination. Such an allegation violates the principle of the presumption of innocence. It also violates Articles 1, 3, 5 and 8 of the Declaration of Principles on the Conduct of Journalists of the International Federation of Journalists, the Code of Ethics of the Society of Professional Journalists, the Statement of Principles of the American Society of Newspaper Editors (ASNE), and Resolution 1003 on the ethics of journalism, adopted by the Council of Europe in 1993.

D. We, therefore, call upon journalists to refrain henceforth from attributing, either directly or indirectly, the commission of the mass murder of 9/11 to Muslims or Arabs or to any Muslim or Islamic organisation; to publicise the unreported fact that the U.S. authorities did not produce any evidence of Muslim/Arab participation in the actual mass murder of 9/11; and to publish an apology to the families of those maligned, without foundation, for the mass murder of 9/11.

(x) The requisite standard of proof in US criminal cases
First Signatories;

x Dr. Kevin Barrett, Arabic-Islamic Studies; author, radio host. USA. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Barrett
x Hartmut Barth-Engelbart, Author, Musician, Cabarttist, Gruendau/Hanau, Germany
x Dr. med. Eric Beeth, Brussels, Belgium
x James R. Carr, Professor, Geological Sciences and Engineering, University of Nevada, Reno, Nevada U.S.A.
x John B. Cobb, Jr. Prof. Emeritus, Claremont School of Theology. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Cobb
x Bernd Juergen Dröge, Psychological Counselor, Muenster, Germany
x Prof. James Fetzer, USA. (See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Henry_Fetzer)
x Anneliese Fikentscher, Arbeiterfotografie, Köln, Germany, http://www.arbeiterfotografie.com
x Dr. Freddy Gardiol, Honorary Professor (ret.), Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL), Lausanne, Switzerland. Founder and former Director of the Laboratory of Electromagnetism and Acoustics at EPFL. Life Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE).
x Reinhard Gebhart, Author, Germany
x Dr. David L Griscom, Research Physicist (ret.), Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, D.C. USA
x Jean-Luc Guilmot, Bio-Engineer, MBA, Belgium. Editor of http://vigli.org
x Dr. Niels Harrit, Associate Professor, Dept. of Chemistry, U. of Copenhagen, Denmark
x Klaus Hartmann, Chairman, German Federation of Freethinkers, Germany
x Sander Hicks, media activist, community organizer and journalist, USA, http://www.sanderhicks.com/
x Folker Hoffmann, Borås, Sweden, http://principiis-obsta.blogspot.com/
x Carol Holland, NY 911 Truth Activist
x Ingar Holst, Department of Semantics, The Ahlefeldt-Holst Center, USA
x Prof. Steven Jones, American physicist. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones
x Claudia Karas, Palästina-Forum Nahost, Frankfurt, Germany
x Yakup Kilic, Musician, Berlin, Germany
x Hans-Peter Koehn, Social Manager, Germany
x Dr. Pétur Knútsson (ret.), University of Iceland, Reykjavik, Iceland
x Anthony Lawson, international prize-winning commercials director, cameraman, film and video editor, Thailand
x Gérard Lazare, Vidéaste indépendant, Viry-Chatillon, France
x Prof. Dr. David MacGregor, Canada (See also: http://publish.uwo.ca/~mcgregor/publications.html)
x Dr. Graeme MacQueen, (ret.), McMaster University, Canada
x Vincent Moreau, Video editor, France
x Rowland Morgan, co-author of “9/11 Revealed” (London & NY, 2005), author of “Flight 93 Revealed” (London & NY, 2006), and of VOICES (internet publication 2009), Great-Britain
x Andreas Neumann, Arbeiterfotografie, Köln Germany
x Klaus von Raussendorff, Author, Germany
x Vincent Robeyns, enseignant et militant pour la vérité, Liège, Belgique
x Dr. Erik A. Röyrvik, Research Fellow, Norway
x Kevin Ryan, former Site Manager for Underwriters Laboratories, USA
x Dr. med. Pascal Sacré, Bruxelles, Belgique
x Dr. Peter Dale Scott, Professor Emeritus of English, University of California, Berkeley, http://www.peterdalescott.net
x John Spritzler, Sc.D., author of The People as Enemy: The Leaders’ Hidden Agenda in World War II, co-editor of http://www.NewDemocracyWorld.org, and author or co-author of numerous articles about HIV infection in medical journals, USA
x Thomas Immanuel Steinberg, Steinberg Research, Hamburg, Germany, http://www.SteinbergRecherche.com
x Catherine Thirion, Ingénieure, militante pour la vérité, Pessac, France
x Willi Uebelherr, IT engineer, Halle, Germany
x Rémi Vandangeon, St. Baudel, France
x Alfred Vestring, Former Ambassador, Bonn, Germany
x Dr. med. Jens Wagner, member of the Association of Physicians Against Nuclear Arms, Stade, Germany
Gerhard Wisnewski, Journalist, Author, Munich, Germany. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Wisnewski (in German)
x Wojna, Musician, Die Bandbreite, Germany
x Sami Yildirim, physicist, Germany
x Barrie Zwicker, Media critic and author, Canada

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/21/declaration-requesting-endorsement-no-muslims-proven-involved-in-911/

22-10-2010, 18:03


het onderzoek van Dr. Elias Davidsson:

There is no evidence that Muslims committed the crime of 9/11

22-10-2010, 18:08
Mensen volgen de wetenschap selectief.

Evolutietheorie? Ja graag!

9/11 een false flag aanval? Complottheorie!

22-10-2010, 18:11
inhoudelijk reageren. ik ga even melding doen van de persoonlijke aanvallen.

22-10-2010, 18:15



Citaat door Moker__Oujdi:
Mensen volgen de wetenschap selectief.

Evolutietheorie? Ja graag!

9/11 een false flag aanval? Complottheorie!



Dat zijn zielen die selectief geslecteerd zijn.. Simpele zielen noem ik ze en nog eens hypocriet ook. Enkel datgene wat hun ten goede komt is goed genoeg... Helaas voor hen deze wereld zit namelijk anders in elkaar.

22-10-2010, 18:26
Ik zal stukjes plaatsen uit het onderzoek van Dr. Davidsson:

te beginnen met de inhoudssamenvatting:

The United States government has alleged that 19 individuals with Arab names, deemed fanatic Muslims, hijacked four passenger planes on 11 September 2001 and crashed them in a suicide-operation that killed approximately 3,000 people. In this Report, the author shows that there is no credible evidence that these individuals boarded any of these passenger planes. For this reason, it is impossible to support the official account on 9/11. As the US government has failed to prove its accusations against the 19 alleged hijackers, the official account on 9/11 must be regarded as a lie.

Het officiële verhaal dient dus als een leugen te worden gezien.

22-10-2010, 18:29

Citaat door Mar2_22:
DECLARATION ON MUSLIMS AND 9/11

A. On the basis of the study “No evidence that Muslims hijacked planes on 9/11″ by Elias Davidsson (2008), that we have carefully examined, and other similar studies, we undersigned are now convinced that the U.S. authorities did not prove [beyond reasonable doubtx] their account on the mass murder of September 11, 2001, in particular their claim that Muslims/Arabs committed this crime.

B. The presumption of innocence, as a civilised principle, is enshrined in Article 11 (1) of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, according to which, every person “charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law (&hellip” While the presumption of innocence was particularly drafted to protect the rights of persons already charged of a penal offence, it evidently applies to persons who have not even been formally accused of any offence.

C. On the basis of the above findings, we consider the publication and dissemination of the allegation that Muslim/Arabs committed the mass murder of 9/11, as a grievous and unconscionable form of character assassination. Such an allegation violates the principle of the presumption of innocence. It also violates Articles 1, 3, 5 and 8 of the Declaration of Principles on the Conduct of Journalists of the International Federation of Journalists, the Code of Ethics of the Society of Professional Journalists, the Statement of Principles of the American Society of Newspaper Editors (ASNE), and Resolution 1003 on the ethics of journalism, adopted by the Council of Europe in 1993.

D. We, therefore, call upon journalists to refrain henceforth from attributing, either directly or indirectly, the commission of the mass murder of 9/11 to Muslims or Arabs or to any Muslim or Islamic organisation; to publicise the unreported fact that the U.S. authorities did not produce any evidence of Muslim/Arab participation in the actual mass murder of 9/11; and to publish an apology to the families of those maligned, without foundation, for the mass murder of 9/11.

(x) The requisite standard of proof in US criminal cases
First Signatories;

x Dr. Kevin Barrett, Arabic-Islamic Studies; author, radio host. USA. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Barrett
x Hartmut Barth-Engelbart, Author, Musician, Cabarttist, Gruendau/Hanau, Germany
x Dr. med. Eric Beeth, Brussels, Belgium
x James R. Carr, Professor, Geological Sciences and Engineering, University of Nevada, Reno, Nevada U.S.A.
x John B. Cobb, Jr. Prof. Emeritus, Claremont School of Theology. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Cobb
x Bernd Juergen Dröge, Psychological Counselor, Muenster, Germany
x Prof. James Fetzer, USA. (See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Henry_Fetzer)
x Anneliese Fikentscher, Arbeiterfotografie, Köln, Germany, http://www.arbeiterfotografie.com
x Dr. Freddy Gardiol, Honorary Professor (ret.), Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL), Lausanne, Switzerland. Founder and former Director of the Laboratory of Electromagnetism and Acoustics at EPFL. Life Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE).
x Reinhard Gebhart, Author, Germany
x Dr. David L Griscom, Research Physicist (ret.), Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, D.C. USA
x Jean-Luc Guilmot, Bio-Engineer, MBA, Belgium. Editor of http://vigli.org
x Dr. Niels Harrit, Associate Professor, Dept. of Chemistry, U. of Copenhagen, Denmark
x Klaus Hartmann, Chairman, German Federation of Freethinkers, Germany
x Sander Hicks, media activist, community organizer and journalist, USA, http://www.sanderhicks.com/
x Folker Hoffmann, Borås, Sweden, http://principiis-obsta.blogspot.com/
x Carol Holland, NY 911 Truth Activist
x Ingar Holst, Department of Semantics, The Ahlefeldt-Holst Center, USA
x Prof. Steven Jones, American physicist. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones
x Claudia Karas, Palästina-Forum Nahost, Frankfurt, Germany
x Yakup Kilic, Musician, Berlin, Germany
x Hans-Peter Koehn, Social Manager, Germany
x Dr. Pétur Knútsson (ret.), University of Iceland, Reykjavik, Iceland
x Anthony Lawson, international prize-winning commercials director, cameraman, film and video editor, Thailand
x Gérard Lazare, Vidéaste indépendant, Viry-Chatillon, France
x Prof. Dr. David MacGregor, Canada (See also: http://publish.uwo.ca/~mcgregor/publications.html)
x Dr. Graeme MacQueen, (ret.), McMaster University, Canada
x Vincent Moreau, Video editor, France
x Rowland Morgan, co-author of “9/11 Revealed” (London & NY, 2005), author of “Flight 93 Revealed” (London & NY, 2006), and of VOICES (internet publication 2009), Great-Britain
x Andreas Neumann, Arbeiterfotografie, Köln Germany
x Klaus von Raussendorff, Author, Germany
x Vincent Robeyns, enseignant et militant pour la vérité, Liège, Belgique
x Dr. Erik A. Röyrvik, Research Fellow, Norway
x Kevin Ryan, former Site Manager for Underwriters Laboratories, USA
x Dr. med. Pascal Sacré, Bruxelles, Belgique
x Dr. Peter Dale Scott, Professor Emeritus of English, University of California, Berkeley, http://www.peterdalescott.net
x John Spritzler, Sc.D., author of The People as Enemy: The Leaders’ Hidden Agenda in World War II, co-editor of http://www.NewDemocracyWorld.org, and author or co-author of numerous articles about HIV infection in medical journals, USA
x Thomas Immanuel Steinberg, Steinberg Research, Hamburg, Germany, http://www.SteinbergRecherche.com
x Catherine Thirion, Ingénieure, militante pour la vérité, Pessac, France
x Willi Uebelherr, IT engineer, Halle, Germany
x Rémi Vandangeon, St. Baudel, France
x Alfred Vestring, Former Ambassador, Bonn, Germany
x Dr. med. Jens Wagner, member of the Association of Physicians Against Nuclear Arms, Stade, Germany
Gerhard Wisnewski, Journalist, Author, Munich, Germany. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Wisnewski (in German)
x Wojna, Musician, Die Bandbreite, Germany
x Sami Yildirim, physicist, Germany
x Barrie Zwicker, Media critic and author, Canada

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/21/declaration-requesting-endorsement-no-muslims-proven-involved-in-911/

http://www.911missinglinks.com/watch-movie/

22-10-2010, 18:30
Zolang Al-Qaeda en Taliban de aanslagen van 11/9 niet veroordelen, zijn andere theoreeen ongegrond en zinloos. Het Taliban lid op m.nl zegt altijd heel trots dat de aanslagen van 11/9 door "moslims" zijn gepleegd.

Beste Maraun 22, zorg eerst dat Al-Qaeda en Taliban de aanslagen veroordelen en dan kom met je beweringen.

22-10-2010, 18:35
conclusie van Dr. Davidsson:


Citaat:
As shown above, the US authorities have failed to prove that the 19 individuals accused of the mass murder of 9/11 had boarded the aircraft, which they allegedly used to commit the crime. No authenticated, original, passenger lists, bearing their names, have been released; no one is known to have seen them board the aircraft; no video recordings documented their boarding; no boarding pass stub is known to exist; and there is no actual proof that the alleged hijackers actually died at the known crash sites, because their bodily remains were not positively identified (except for one dubious case) and no chain-of-custody report accompanied these remains.

In the months following 9/11, reports appeared in mainstream media that at least five of the alleged hijackers were actually living in various Arab countries. [89] These reports led to speculation that the identities of some of the hijackers were in doubt. Typical of such reports is an Associated Press dispatch of 3 November 2001, which states: "The FBI released the names and photos of the hijackers in late September. The names were those listed on the planes' passenger manifests and investigators were certain those were the names the hijackers used when they entered the United States. But questions remained about whether they were the hijackers' true identities. The FBI has not disclosed which names were in doubt and [FBI Director] Mueller provided no new information on the hijackers' identities beyond his statement to reporters." The 9/11 Commission did neither address at all these doubts nor the reports about the "living hijackers".

On September 14, 2001, the FBI released the names of the 19 individuals "who have been identified as hijackers aboard the four airliners that crashed on September 11, 2001". [90] On September 27, 2001, the FBI released photographs of these 19 individuals. Withdrawing from its unqualified statement of September 14, the new press release said these were photographs the FBI merely "believed to be the hijackers of the four airliners". [91] Yet for most names no birth date, birthplace or specific residence is given despite the apparent availability of such data on visa application forms and other documentation possessed by the FBI. The FBI webpage provides the following caveat: "It should be noted that attempts to confirm the true identities of these individuals are still under way." This statement, issued on September 27, 2001, is still valid today, anno 2008, because the webpage has not been updated since it was initially posted and remains, therefore, the US government's official position that their identities are in doubt. Accordingly, a significant difference exists between the official position of the US government, as reflected by the website of the FBI, regarding the identities of the alleged perpetrators of the crime committed on 9/11 and the popularized version parroted by politicians and the media about the guilt of 19 Muslims for the mass murder of 9/11. The 9/11 Commission has studiously avoided the question of the alleged hijackers' identities. It must be added, however, that the aforementioned statement is deliberately deceptive, because there is no hard evidence that any person actually hijacked the airliners and crashed them on the known sites.

Not everyone is convinced that the above account disposes of the question whether or not Muslim fanatics hijacked planes on 9/11. Some people claim that callers from the aircraft actually described the hijackers as Arabs and even mentioned their seat numbers. Such electronically transmitted evidence would have strengthened the official allegations if it had been supported by solid primary evidence, namely that these "hijackers" had actually boarded these aircraft and died at the known crash sites. Absent this primary evidence such secondary evidence cannot be considered as the proof for the presence of these "hijackers" on the aircraft. Additionally, numerous questions remain unanswered regarding the location from which the phone calls were made and their authenticity. [92]

Another recurring counter-argument is that a man claiming to be the notorious terrorist Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, reportedly detained at the Guantanámo base, had confessed to be the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. Here again, in the absence of primary evidence proving that the 19 "hijackers" actually boarded the aircraft which they hijacked and crashed, such claims by someone whose identity is shrounded in mystery and who was no eyewitness to the events of 9/11 cannot supplant primary evidence.

More than seven years have elapsed since the events of 9/11. The U.S. government had in those years sufficient time to prove the identities of the persons who allegedly boarded and crashed airplanes on 9/11, if any. If the official account on 9/11 were true, the U.S. government, more than anyone else, would have trumpeted this evidence in order to prove to the world, once and for all, who committed the crime. No one would have benefitted more from publicizing such evidence than the U.S. government.

While it is theoretically possible that the U.S. government possesses the evidence that would prove its accusations against the 19 named "hijackers", such possibility becomes less and less plausible as time passes. The total absence of evidence proving the guilt of Muslims for the crime of 9/11 gives rise to the following observations:

(a) Due to the lack of evidence regarding the guilt of the 19 named Muslims for the crime of 9/11, it is unconscionable to claim that Muslims (or al Qaeda) committed this crime. Any such accusations or insinuations amount to slander and possibly racial incitement.

(b) In view of harmful policies pursued by the U.S. government on the base of allegedly secret evidence, it is politically irresponsible to accord the US Government the benefit of the doubt by presuming the existence, albeit hidden, of incriminating evidence against Muslims for the crime of 9/11.

(c) The lack of evidence regarding the boarding of the four airliners that reportedly crashed on 9/11 and the failure of the U.S. government to formally prove its case, justify suspicion about its complicity in the crime of 9/11 and its cover-up.

The crime of 9/11 has served to justify two wars of aggression by the United States, an indefinite and global "war on terror", the imposition of the PATRIOT Act, spying of the public, and serious violations of international law. Many governments have colluded in these violations and endorsed U.S. lies regarding the events of 9/11. The continuous reliance on the official account regarding 9/11 therefore threatens international peace and security. The above account should therefore prompt all those who are concerned by human rights violations and the threat to international peace and security, to join in demanding the full truth on the events of 9/11.
Dit is duidelijk dus.

22-10-2010, 18:38

Citaat door Mar2_22:
het onderzoek van Dr. Elias Davidsson:

There is no evidence that Muslims committed the crime of 9/11



Waar staat dat hij DOCTOR is? Waar staat dat hij onderzoekend wetenschapper is?

22-10-2010, 18:56

Citaat door sjoerd26:
Waar staat dat hij DOCTOR is? Waar staat dat hij onderzoekend wetenschapper is?


Hier

22-10-2010, 18:59
Dit lid van de 9/11 Truth movement en eigenaar van de site: http://www.911truth.eu.
verdiend al jaren zijn brood door dit soort onzin te roepen.


Niet echt overtuigend ..

Overigens hilarisch dat gorden duff er meteen zijn eigen draai aangeeft en de volgende tag aan het artikel toevoegt : israel did it

22-10-2010, 20:01



Citaat door G2687:
Hoop je nou dat het mensen meer gaat intrigeren naarmate je het hier vaker dumpt, ofzo?

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Overigens: die Belgische parachutemoordenaar is ook veroordeeld zonder dat er bewijs was dat ze het gedaan had. Gewoon omdat het het meest logisch was dat zij het was. Daar stem ik hier ook voor: het was het meest waarschijnlijk dat moslimterroristen de aanval van 11 september hebben uitgevoerd. Zo. Ik heb gesproken.


Zo logisch is dat niet geweest... Ik neem aan dat ze hebben geweten dat ze als honden zouden worden nagejaagd en ze onder een tapijt van bommen zouden worden gestopt. Of dachten ze werkelijk dat ze hiermee 'de vijand' zouden hebben verslagen en hun islamitische heilstaat konden gaan stichten

Tenzij ze extreem dom zijn, maar dat is niet logisch omdat ze een planmatig extreem gecompliceerde actie zouden hebben uitgevoerd.

Contradicties en discrepanties te over!

22-10-2010, 20:13

Citaat:
While it is theoretically possible that the U.S. government possesses the evidence that would prove its accusations against the 19 named "hijackers", such possibility becomes less and less plausible as time passes. The total absence of evidence proving the guilt of Muslims for the crime of 9/11 gives rise to the following observations:

(a) Due to the lack of evidence regarding the guilt of the 19 named Muslims for the crime of 9/11, it is unconscionable to claim that Muslims (or al Qaeda) committed this crime. Any such accusations or insinuations amount to slander and possibly racial incitement.

(b) In view of harmful policies pursued by the U.S. government on the base of allegedly secret evidence, it is politically irresponsible to accord the US Government the benefit of the doubt by presuming the existence, albeit hidden, of incriminating evidence against Muslims for the crime of 9/11.

(c) The lack of evidence regarding the boarding of the four airliners that reportedly crashed on 9/11 and the failure of the U.S. government to formally prove its case, justify suspicion about its complicity in the crime of 9/11 and its cover-up.

The crime of 9/11 has served to justify two wars of aggression by the United States, an indefinite and global "war on terror", the imposition of the PATRIOT Act, spying of the public, and serious violations of international law. Many governments have colluded in these violations and endorsed U.S. lies regarding the events of 9/11. The continuous reliance on the official account regarding 9/11 therefore threatens international peace and security. The above account should therefore prompt all those who are concerned by human rights violations and the threat to international peace and security, to join in demanding the full truth on the events of 9/11.
Juist. Er is dus geen enkel bewijs dat moslims betrokken waren bij 9/11. Aangezien de VS dit makkelijk had kunnen bewijzen, maar verzuimd enig bewijs te leveren, moeten we concluderen dat het officiële verhaal een leugen is.

22-10-2010, 21:17
een moslim die onschuldige mensen vermoord?? geloof je hetzelf????achterlijkhied ten top is dit!

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