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18-11-2008, 16:04
Salam moe aleikoem

Ik heb een vraag. Ik hoop dat iemand het geen rare vraag vind.

We wonen en leven in Nederland. Ik weet dat vieren van verjaardagen niet toegestaan is. Nu is mijn vraag of het wel toegestaan is om iemand (met name de nederlandse mensen) te feliciteren met zijn/haar verjaardag?

18-11-2008, 18:59


niemand die mij een antwoord kan geven

het gaat alleen om feliciteren en niet mee doen aan de verjaardag zelf.

19-11-2008, 10:15
Ik zou het eigenlijk ook niet weten. Ik hoop dat je een antwoord krijgt.

19-11-2008, 10:26

Citaat door arabia2:
Salam moe aleikoem

Ik heb een vraag. Ik hoop dat iemand het geen rare vraag vind.

We wonen en leven in Nederland. Ik weet dat vieren van verjaardagen niet toegestaan is. Nu is mijn vraag of het wel toegestaan is om iemand (met name de nederlandse mensen) te feliciteren met zijn/haar verjaardag?



Het is toch wel in de Islam toegestaan om iemand een fijne dag of een leuk feest toe te wensen? Oftewel: er zijn genoeg manieren om je aan de Islam te houden, terwijl je dan ook gelijk attent bent.

Ik zie het probleem dus niet.

19-11-2008, 11:59


lijkt me logisch inderdaad.
Maar waarom is het in de islam niet toegestaan je verjaardag te vieren?

19-11-2008, 12:09
It is not permissible to congratulate the kuffaar on their festivals in any way whatsoever

What is the ruling on eating the food (rice, meat, chicken or cake) that is given to us by a Christian friend that he made for his birthday or for Christmas or the Christian New Year? What is your opinion on congratulating him by saying, “Insha Allaah you will continue to do well this year” so as to avoid saying Kull ‘aam wa antum bi khayr (approx. “season’s greetings&#8221 or “Happy New Year” etc?.


Praise be to Allaah.

It is not permissible for a Muslim to eat things that the Jews and Christians make on their festivals, or what they give him as a gift on their festivals, because that is cooperating with them and joining in with them in this evil, as is explained in question no. 12666.

It is not permissible for him to congratulate them on their festivals in any way whatsoever, because that implies approval of their festival and not denouncing them, and helping them to manifest their symbols and propagate their innovation, and sharing their happiness during their festivals, which are innovated festivals that are connected to false beliefs that are not approved of in Islam. See also question no. 47322.

And Allaah knows best.


Islam Q&A

19-11-2008, 12:11

Citaat door AMLO2008:
lijkt me logisch inderdaad.
Maar waarom is het in de islam niet toegestaan je verjaardag te vieren?




Celebrating birthdays is not allowed

what is the evidence on celebrating birthdays,is it allowed in islam?


The evidence in the Qur’aan and Sunnah indicates that celebrating birthdays is a kind of bid’ah or innovation in religion, which has no basis in the pure sharee’ah. It is not permitted to accept invitations to birthday celebrations, because this involves supporting and encouraging bid’ah. Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Or have they partners with Allaah (false gods) who have instituted for them a religion which Allaah has not allowed…?” [al-Shoora 42:21]

“Then We have put you (O Muhammad) on a plain way of (Our) commandment. So follow that, and follow not the desires of those who know not. Verily, they can avail you nothing against Allaah (if He wants to puish you). Verily, the zaalimoon (wrongdoers) are awliyaa’ (protectors, helpers, etc.) to one another, but Allaah is the Wali (Protector, Helper) of the muttaqoon (pious).” [al-Jaathiyah 45:18-19]

“Follow what has been sent down unto you from your Lord, and follow not any awliyaa’ (protectors, helpers, etc.) besides Him. Little do you remember!” [al-A’raaf 7:3]

According to saheeh reports, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever does something that is a not part of this matter of ours (i.e., Islam) will have it rejected” (reported by Muslim in his Saheeh); and “The best of speech is the Book of Allaah and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The most evil of things are those which have been newly invented (in religion), and every innovation is a going astray.” There are many other ahaadeeth that convey the same meaning.

Besides being bid’ah and having no basis in sharee’ah, these birthday celebrations also involve imitation of the Jews and Christians in their birthday celebrations. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, warning us against following their ways and traditions: “You would follow the ways of those who came before you step by step, to such an extent that if they were to enter a lizard’s hole, you would enter it too.” They said, “O Messenger of Allaah, (do you mean) the Jews and Christians?” He said, “Who else?” (Reported by al-Bukhaari and Muslim). The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.”(/font>


Fataawa Islamiyyah, 1/115

19-11-2008, 12:15
Ruling on celebrating non-Muslim holidays and congratulating them

Can a muslim celebrate a non muslim holiday like Thanksgiving?


Praise be to Allaah.

Greeting the kuffaar on Christmas and other religious holidays of theirs is haraam, by consensus, as Ibn al-Qayyim, may Allaah have mercy on him, said in Ahkaam Ahl al-Dhimmah: "Congratulating the kuffaar on the rituals that belong only to them is haraam by consensus, as is congratulating them on their festivals and fasts by saying ‘A happy festival to you’ or ‘May you enjoy your festival,’ and so on. If the one who says this has been saved from kufr, it is still forbidden. It is like congratulating someone for prostrating to the cross, or even worse than that. It is as great a sin as congratulating someone for drinking wine, or murdering someone, or having illicit sexual relations, and so on. Many of those who have no respect for their religion fall into this error; they do not realize the offensiveness of their actions. Whoever congratulates a person for his disobedience or bid’ah or kufr exposes himself to the wrath and anger of Allaah."

Congratulating the kuffaar on their religious festivals is haraam to the extent described by Ibn al-Qayyim because it implies that one accepts or approves of their rituals of kufr, even if one would not accept those things for oneself. But the Muslim should not aceept the rituals of kufr or congratulate anyone else for them, because Allaah does not accept any of that at all, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

"If you disbelieve, then verily, Allaah is not in need of you, He likes not disbelief for His slaves. And if you are grateful (by being believers), He is pleased therewith for you. . ."
[al-Zumar 39:7]

". . . This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion . . ."
[al-Maa’idah 5:3]

So congratulating them is forbidden, whether they are one’s colleagues at work or otherwise.

If they greet us on the occasion of their festivals, we should not respond, because these are not our festivals, and because they are not festivals which are acceptable to Allaah. These festivals are innovations in their religions, and even those which may have been prescribed formerly have been abrogated by the religion of Islaam, with which Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to the whole of mankind. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
"Whoever seeks a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers." [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]

It is haraam for a Muslim to accept invitations on such occasions, because this is worse than congratulating them as it implies taking part in their celebrations.

Similarly, Muslims are forbidden to imitate the kuffaar by having parties on such occasions, or exchanging gifts, or giving out sweets or food, or taking time off work, etc., because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever imitates a people is one of them." Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyah said in his book Iqtidaa’ al-siraat al-mustaqeem mukhaalifat ashaab al-jaheem: "Imitating them in some of their festivals implies that one is pleased with their false beliefs and practices, and gives them the hope that they may have the opportunity to humiliate and mislead the weak."

Whoever does anything of this sort is a sinner, whether he does it out of politeness or to be friendly, or because he is too shy to refuse, or for whatever other reason, because this is hypocrisy in Islaam, and because it makes the kuffaar feel proud of their religion.

Allaah is the One Whom we ask to make the Muslims feel proud of their religion, to help them adhere steadfastly to it, and to make them victorious over their enemies, for He is the Strong and Omnipotent.



Majmoo’ah Fataawa wa Rasaa’il al-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 3/369)

19-11-2008, 12:19
Dank je wel voor dit antwoord.
Als het mag: ik snap de argumentatie voor festivals van joden en christenen zoals Yom Kippoer, Bar Mitzwa, Kerst, Pasen etcetera. Maar hoe past de verjaardag van iemand in dit rijtje? Ik zie hier namelijk niets religieus in en heb dan ook moeite dit onder 'bid'ah' te laten vallen.

Overigens snap ik nu el waarom verjaardagen in het MO niet gevierd worden. echter: vele gezinnen vieren wel de verjaardagen van hun kinderen...dat is dan eigenlijk ook verboden toch?

19-11-2008, 12:25

Citaat door AMLO2008:
Dank je wel voor dit antwoord.
Als het mag: ik snap de argumentatie voor festivals van joden en christenen zoals Yom Kippoer, Bar Mitzwa, Kerst, Pasen etcetera. Maar hoe past de verjaardag van iemand in dit rijtje? Ik zie hier namelijk niets religieus in en heb dan ook moeite dit onder 'bid'ah' te laten vallen.

Overigens snap ik nu el waarom verjaardagen in het MO niet gevierd worden. echter: vele gezinnen vieren wel de verjaardagen van hun kinderen...dat is dan eigenlijk ook verboden toch?


wat is bid3a? wat betekend het?

19-11-2008, 12:32

Citaat door narges:
wat is bid3a? wat betekend het?



link:bid'ah

19-11-2008, 12:36

Citaat door narges:
wat is bid3a? wat betekend het?



innovatie; nieuwe ontwikkelingen een z,g,n, modern islamitisch geloof waarin de zuilen losgelaten worden.

Maar ik begrijp van een aantal vrienden van me die moslim zijn: dat het houden van hadith's niet verplicht is en dat de Quran die leidraad is.

19-11-2008, 12:38


wil je een antwoord van mij omdat jij het niet weet? Het kwam in jouw stuk voor en volgens mij betekent het zoiets als 'uitvinding' of, religieus gezien, 'afdwaling' of 'ketterij'.

19-11-2008, 12:38
Ik zeg Altyd .. Gefeliciteerd metje verjaardag Moge Allah swt je vele mooie jaren bijgeven Insha'Allah!

Probeer dat is bij een nederlander zou ik zeggen

19-11-2008, 12:41

Citaat door MiiSsz_m0cr0:
Ik zeg Altyd .. Gefeliciteerd metje verjaardag Moge Allah swt je vele mooie jaren bijgeven Insha'Allah!

Probeer dat is bij een nederlander zou ik zeggen



Kijk dat vind ik nou klasse! Je zegent gewoon je medemens en daar kan niets op tegen zijn.

Weer een goede daad verricht....

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