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28-08-2002, 15:58
Ja Ja,

Dit is weer zo'n vraag die erruug gevoelig ligt bij mensen onder ons..zeker bij mij.

Ik kan er niet bij dat vrouwen dat werkelijk kunnen doen??
Waarom een leven afnemen van een Malaika??

Wie is hier nog meer op tegen?

En wie kan mij vertellen dat er met zo iemand gebeurt?

28-08-2002, 16:04


28-08-2002, 16:06
Ha Ha Ha, waarom heb ik zo het idee dat jij ook niet 1 van de heilige bent??...misschien komt dat wel door die Engeltjes??

28-08-2002, 16:07
Het gevolg hiervan is heel simpel: hel

28-08-2002, 16:08

IK heb gehoord toen ik in een nuchtere toestand was van een imam, dat voor elke leven dat je ontneemt er 10 slangen in je graf je komen en je een ongelovelijke pijn zullen doen. dat is wat ik gehoord heb.

28-08-2002, 16:09

Maar dat is niet echt wat ik bedoelde met mijn vraag...
Ik bedoel hoe kunnen zulke vrouwen nog een normaal leven leiden??

Snappie??...ik begrijp niet dat zulke vrouwen daar vrede mee kunnen sluiten?

28-08-2002, 16:51

Origineel gepost door magda
Het gevolg hiervan is heel simpel: hel
1. Alleen Allah bepaalt dat.

2. In sommige gevallen is abortus zelfs toegestaan: als het leven van de moeder in gevaar is, en als de vrouw zwanger is na verkrachting.

28-08-2002, 16:58
Title of Fatwa Abortion
Date of Reply 17/ February/ 2000
Question of Fatwa Is abortion Haram?
Content of Reply While Islam permits preventing pregnancy for valid reasons, it does not allow doing violence to the pregnancy once it occurs.

Muslim jurists agree unanimously that after the foetus is completely formed and has been given a soul, aborting it is haram. It is also a crime, the commission of which is prohibited to the Muslim because it constitutes an offense against a complete, live human being. Jurists insist that the payment of blood money (diya) becomes incumbent if the baby was aborted alive and then died, while a fine of lesser amount is to be paid if it was aborted dead.

However, there is one exceptional situation. If, say the jurists, after the baby is completely formed, it is reliably esthat the continuation of the pregnancy would necessarily result in the death of the mother, then, in accordance with the general principle of the Shari'ah, that of choosing the lesser of two evils, abortion must be performed.
For the mother is the origin of the foetus; moreover, she is established in life, with duties and responsibilities, and she is also a pillar of the family. It would not be possible to sacrifice her life for the life of a feotus which has not yet acquired a personality and which has no responsibilities or obligations to fulfill. (Al-Fatawa by Shaikh Shaltut p. 164.)

Imam al-Ghazzali makes a clear distinction between contraception and abortion, saying, Contraception is not like abortion. Abortion is a crime against an existing being. Now, existence has stages. The first stages of existence are the settling of the semen in the womb and its mixing with the secretions of the woman. (It was then believed that the mingling of the semen with the secretions of the woman in the uterus caused pregnancy. (Trans.)) It is then ready to receive life. Disturbing it is a crime. When it develops further and becomes a lump, aborting it is a greater crime. When it acquires a soul and its creation is completed, the crime becomes more grievous. The crime reaches a maximum seriousness when it is committed after it (the fetus) is separated (from the mother) alive.

28-08-2002, 16:59
Title of Fatwa Abortion of the Raped Woman
Date of Reply 10/ March/ 2000
Topic Of Fatwa Abortion
Question of Fatwa Is it permissable for a women to have an abortion if she has been raped?

Content of Reply The general rule is no. The Islamic society is responsible for taking care of this child. However, in some severe cases - like what happened to our sisters in Bosnia and Kosovo- some scholars adhere to the view that it may be permissible. This is the view of our Sheikh Yusuf al-Qardawi.

28-08-2002, 17:01
hhhmmmm zoa;s najib al zei als je zwanger bent geworden omdat je bv verkrcaht ben ofzo dan is t toegetsaan om weg te halen...maar normaal gesproken is t haram

28-08-2002, 17:01

What can those Muslim women do who have been assaulted and become pregnant as a result of rape? Is it permissible for them to abort the foetus or not?


Praise be to Allaah.

Because the Muslims have become so weak and humiliated, they, along with their lands and their honour, have become fair game for anyone; the nations call one another to attack them from all sides. Many Muslim women have often become a target for the scavenging wolves of humanity, who do not fear Allaah or any deterrent, as is the case in many countries in the Muslim world, and as has happened in Bosnia and Herzegovina, in the Philippines, in Chechnya, in Eritrea, and in the prisons of some of the contemptible systems of the Arab world.

There follow some important points concerning the woman who has been raped:

1 – The raped woman who did her utmost to resist these thugs and their ilk is not guilty of any sin, because she was forced into it, and the one who is forced to do something is not guilty of sin in the case of kufr, which is worse than zinaa (unlawful sexual activity), as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“except him who is forced thereto and whose heart is at rest with Faith…”

[al-Nahl 16:106]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has forgiven for my ummah for their mistakes, what they forget and what they are forced to do.” (Narrated by Ibn Maajah in al-Talaaq, 2033; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan Ibn Maajah, 1664).

The Muslim woman who has fallen prey to a rapist will be rewarded for bearing this calamity with patience, if she seeks reward with Allaah for the harm that has befallen her. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No stress or exhaustion befalls the Muslim, nor worry or distress, even a thorn which pricks him, but Allaah will expiate for his sins because of that.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim).

2 – Young Muslim men should hasten to marry women such as these who have been tormented, so as to reduce their suffering and console them, to compensate them for the loss of the most precious thing that they possess, which is their virginity.

3 – With regard to their having abortions – the basic principle concerning abortion is that it is haraam and is not allowed from the moment of conception when it becomes a new being and is “placed in a place of safety” [cf. al-Mursalaat 77:21], i.e., the womb, even if this being is the result of a haraam relationship such as zinaa. In the case of the Ghaamidi woman who had confessed to zina and thus the punishment of stoning became obligatory, the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told her to go away until after she had given birth, then after she had given birth, he told her to go away until the child was weaned.

4 – There are some fuqahaa’ who think that it is permissible to have an abortion within the first forty days of pregnancy. Some of them even permit it until before the soul is breathed into the embryo. The stronger the excuse, the clearer the reason for the concession is, and if that is within the first forty days it is, this means that the concession is more appropriate.

5 – Undoubtedly the rape of a Muslim woman by an evil enemy is a strong reason for the Muslim woman and for her family to have an abortion. For she will hate this foetus, the result of this iniquitous attack, and she will want to get rid of it. So this concession is to be given because of necessity, especially in the first days of the pregnancy.

6 – Nevertheless, there is nothing wrong with a Muslim woman who has suffered this disaster keeping the foetus without being forced to get rid of it. If it is decreed that it should remain in her womb for the usual term and she gives birth to it, then it will be a Muslim child, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Every newborn is born in a state of fitrah (the natural state of man, i.e., Islam).” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari). The fitrah is the religion of Tawheed, i.e., Islam. It has been stated in fiqh that if the parents have different religions, the child should follow the parent who has the best religion. This is in cases where the father is known, but what about the child who has no father? He is a Muslim child, no doubt, and the Muslim society is obliged to take care of his upbringing, to spend on him and to bring him up well. They should not leave the burden to his poor, suffering mother.

One of the basic principles of Islam is to relieve distress and hardship, so if a Muslim girl who is keen to remain chaste is exposed to bestial aggression and fears the effect that this may have on her reputation or her honour, or fears that she may be an outcast or that she may be subjected to harm such as being killed, or she fears that she may suffer psychological or nervous diseases, or that her sanity may be affected, or that shame may be brought upon her family for a matter in which she is not guilty of any sin, or that the child will not find any place of safety, then I say: that if this is the case, there is nothing wrong with her aborting the foetus before the soul is breathed into it, especially when it has become easy for a woman to find out if she is pregnant or not, with the advance of medical means of detecting pregnancy in the first week. The earlier the abortion is carried out, the more appropriate this concession is. And Allaah knows best.

From Ahkaam al-Janeen fi’l-Fiqh al-Islaami by ‘Umar ibn Muhammad ibn Ibraaheem Ghaanim (

28-08-2002, 17:02

Origineel gepost door saidaaatje
hhhmmmm zoa;s najib al zei als je zwanger bent geworden omdat je bv verkrcaht ben ofzo dan is t toegetsaan om weg te halen...maar normaal gesproken is t haram
Binnen een bepaald aantal dagen dan.

28-08-2002, 17:02

Het is en het blijft wreed, zeker voor een marokaans meisje vinden jullie niet??

28-08-2002, 17:02
Ik weet niet of vrouwen die dit hebben laten doen er vrede mee (kunnen) hebben. Wat je veel hoort van vrouwen die hun kind ter adoptie stellen dat ze er elke dag spijt van hebben. Als je het kind hebt laten doden, lijkt me dat je het jezelf nooit kan vergeven. Maar als ze er echt oprecht spijt van hebben zal Allah het ze vergeven (het is natuurlijk niet aan mij om dat te bepalen)

29-08-2002, 00:22
Assalamou alaikoum wa rahmatou allah wa barakatouh,

"elke zoon van Adam maakt fouten en de beste onder hen die fouten maken zijn zij die berouw tonen"

wa salam

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