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23-08-2006, 02:54
In mei volgend jaar zullen algemene verkiezingen gehouden worden in Algerije, en in oktober daarna lokale verkiezingen, zo zei de Minister van Binnenlandse Zaken van Algerije Yazid Zerhouni afgelopen maandag.

Hij zei ook dat er voor het einde van het jaar een referendum over herziening van de grondwet van 1996 wordt gehouden. De voorgestelde veranderingen vergroten de macht van de president en de limiet op presidentiële ambtstermijnen zal verdwijnen.

Sprekend op een opening in Algiers zei Zerhouni dat bijna 300 Islamisten zich hebben overgegeven aan autoriteiten, sinds begin februari een handvest voor vrede en nationale verzoening in effect kwam. De periode van zes maanden voor bewapende Islamisten om hun wapens neer te leggen verloopt op 28 augustus a.s.

Het handvest verleent amnestie aan bewapende Islamisten die geen bloed vergoten hebben, onder voorwaarde dan ze zich overgaven binnen zes maanden. Het doel hiervan is om een punt te zetten achter het geweld dat sinds 1992 aan 150.000 tot 200.000 mensen het leven heeft gekost.

Meer dan 2000 mensen die gevangen waren genomen voor "terrorisme" zijn vrijgelaten onder de voorwaarden van het handvest. Algerijnse kranten berichtten maandag dat afgelopen weekend vier gewapende Islamisten zijn gedood door de Algerijnse veiligheidsdiensten.

Bron The Daily Star Lebanon

23-08-2006, 03:51


Ik volg het allemaal niet zo, is dit nu positief of negatief?

23-08-2006, 15:23

Citaat door Rebel_1963:
Ik volg het allemaal niet zo, is dit nu positief of negatief?
Dat is een goede vraag...

23-08-2006, 15:24
Gelukkig nog een mooi bericht.

23-08-2006, 15:26



Citaat door Rebel_1963:
Ik volg het allemaal niet zo, is dit nu positief of negatief?
Wordt dan tijd dat dit soort zaken meer gevolgd worden hier in plaats van dat eeuwige gejank over Palestijnen:

'Het doel hiervan is om een punt te zetten achter het geweld dat sinds 1992 aan 150.000 tot 200.000 mensen het leven heeft gekost'.

23-08-2006, 15:28

Citaat door Danielle2:
Wordt dan tijd dat dit soort zaken meer gevolgd worden hier in plaats van dat eeuwige gejank over Palestijnen:

'Het doel hiervan is om een punt te zetten achter het geweld dat sinds 1992 aan 150.000 tot 200.000 mensen het leven heeft gekost'.
Daar heb je ook een punt...

23-08-2006, 15:55

Citaat door bambam:
In verhouding is het Palestijnse conflict in alle opzichten "klein". Aantal dodelijke slachtoffers 100.000 in 60 jaar zei Ahmadinedjad laatst. Zal wel kloppen ongeveer.
Het totale aantal slachtoffers van oorlogsgeweld zal minstens het hondervoudige zijn, Palestina lijkt desalniettemin 90% van de aandacht van de media op te snoepen.
allemaal onderdeel van het zionistische complot


toch ???

23-08-2006, 15:56
en de bio-industie !!!

23-08-2006, 16:02

Citaat door SUPER_MAROC:
In mei volgend jaar zullen algemene verkiezingen gehouden worden in Algerije, en in oktober daarna lokale verkiezingen, zo zei de Minister van Binnenlandse Zaken van Algerije Yazid Zerhouni afgelopen maandag.

Hij zei ook dat er voor het einde van het jaar een referendum over herziening van de grondwet van 1996 wordt gehouden. De voorgestelde veranderingen vergroten de macht van de president en de limiet op presidentiële ambtstermijnen zal verdwijnen.

Sprekend op een opening in Algiers zei Zerhouni dat bijna 300 Islamisten zich hebben overgegeven aan autoriteiten, sinds begin februari een handvest voor vrede en nationale verzoening in effect kwam. De periode van zes maanden voor bewapende Islamisten om hun wapens neer te leggen verloopt op 28 augustus a.s.

Het handvest verleent amnestie aan bewapende Islamisten die geen bloed vergoten hebben, onder voorwaarde dan ze zich overgaven binnen zes maanden. Het doel hiervan is om een punt te zetten achter het geweld dat sinds 1992 aan 150.000 tot 200.000 mensen het leven heeft gekost.

Meer dan 2000 mensen die gevangen waren genomen voor "terrorisme" zijn vrijgelaten onder de voorwaarden van het handvest. Algerijnse kranten berichtten maandag dat afgelopen weekend vier gewapende Islamisten zijn gedood door de Algerijnse veiligheidsdiensten.

Bron The Daily Star Lebanon
Algerije economie groeit gigantisch met jaarlijks gemiddeld 7% groei vanwege de hoge olieprijs.

Ook trekt het land veel buitenlandse investeringen en men is van plan om van Algerije een soort Dubai te maken.

23-08-2006, 16:07

Citaat door bambam:
In verhouding is het Palestijnse conflict in alle opzichten "klein". Aantal dodelijke slachtoffers 100.000 in 60 jaar zei Ahmadinedjad laatst. Zal wel kloppen ongeveer.
Het totale aantal slachtoffers van oorlogsgeweld zal minstens het hondervoudige zijn, Palestina lijkt desalniettemin 90% van de aandacht van de media op te snoepen.
Het aantal gedode Palestijnen sinds 1967 bedraagt niet meer meer dan 15.000.

23-08-2006, 16:11

Citaat door Danielle2:
Wordt dan tijd dat dit soort zaken meer gevolgd worden hier in plaats van dat eeuwige gejank over Palestijnen:

'Het doel hiervan is om een punt te zetten achter het geweld dat sinds 1992 aan 150.000 tot 200.000 mensen het leven heeft gekost'.
Je vergelijkt appels met peren. Algerije was meer dan 10 jaar in een burgeroorlog met extremisten die goed bewapend waren.

Dat kan je niet vergelijken met Palestijnen die slecht bewapend zijn en niet in oorlog zijn met Israel.

In de burgeroorlog in El Salvador tegen de communisten werden ook 75.000 mensen vermoord.

23-08-2006, 20:13

Citaat door Danielle2:
Wordt dan tijd dat dit soort zaken meer gevolgd worden hier in plaats van dat eeuwige gejank over Palestijnen:

'Het doel hiervan is om een punt te zetten achter het geweld dat sinds 1992 aan 150.000 tot 200.000 mensen het leven heeft gekost'.
Nou ja, ik jank nergens over, ook niet over de Palestijnen. Maar goed, je zal je dag wel niet hebben.

Als het doel is om het geweld te stoppen, tja, dan is het toch positief?


Citaat:
Algerije economie groeit gigantisch met jaarlijks gemiddeld 7% groei vanwege de hoge olieprijs.

Ook trekt het land veel buitenlandse investeringen en men is van plan om van Algerije een soort Dubai te maken
Klopt, Algerije maakt een inhaalslag.

23-08-2006, 20:41


Men moet niet vergeten dat een groot deel van de slachtpartijen in Algerijen gepleegd zijn door het leger en de geheime dienst van Algerije. Verder is uit onderzoek gebleken dat meeste doden aanhangers of sympatisanten van de FIS of GIA zijn.

Crucially, the vast majority of the victims of these massacres have not been non-Muslims, secularists or supporters of the new Algerian regime, as one would expect if the perpetrators were actually former members of the Islamic Salvation Front (FIS). The victims have almost entirely been poor villagers and shantytown dwellers - the very Muslim people who voted overwhelmingly for the FIS. High-ranking officials or members of the pro-Algerian regime elite have rarely been victims. For instance, no atrocities have been committed in the area of Club Des Pines, which was recently turned into a high-class city on the outskirts of the capital. Government officials, army chiefs and pro-government party leaders reside there. Why would the FIS massacre its own supporters, its own popular base, rather than its real enemy in the new Algerian elite? There have also been accounts reported on the authority of physicians working in hospitals where the dead and wounded are received, stating that “the dead from those who commit these horrible crimes were not circumcised.” Yet circumcision is standard for all Muslim males in Algeria. This implies that the perpetrators were not Muslim - and therefore not Islamist terrorists. The FIS itself, along with other opposition parties, accuses the Algerian government’s security forces of masterminding the massacres, especially in light of the government’s refusal to establish an independent investigation into the atrocities, which the FIS has been demanding. These points expose the inconsistency in the notion that the GIA is a radical Islamic offshoot of the FIS.[12]

The IHRC bulletin goes on to cite an Agence France Press (AFP) report which noted: “Bomb attacks that killed eight people in Paris in 1995 were carried out by the Algerian secret service, according to a press report on Sunday... The Observer quoted an Algerian asylum-seeker in Britain - who claimed he was a former agent in Algeria’s secret service - as saying the Paris bombs were part of a black propaganda war aimed at galvanising French public opinion against Islamic militants... The man, named only as Yussuf, told the paper that the Armed Islamic Group (GIA) - on whom both the Paris bombs and frequent massacres in Algeria have been blamed - was ‘a pure product of (the Algerian) secret service.’... Yussuf said Algerian intelligence agents routinely bribed European police, journalists and members of parliament... And he claimed to have personally delivered a suitcase containing $90,000 to a former French member of parliament ‘with strong links to the French intelligence services.’... Yussuf added that the killings of many foreigners in Algeria were organised by the secret police and not by Islamic extremists.”[24]

Similarly, reports by British journalists John Sweeney and Leonard Doyle reveal the complicity of both the Algerian state and the West in the Algerian crisis. Sweeney and Doyle report that according to defectors from the Algerian security forces, “The relentless massacres in Algeria are the work of secret police and army death squads. Algerian intelligence agents routinely bribe European police, journalists and MPs” via “Algeria’s oil and gas billions”. The testimony of these defectors supports the conclusion that “the constant terror in which civilians live is orchestrated by two shadowy figures”; these being “the heads of the Algerian secret service, the DRS and its sub-department, the counter intelligence agency, the DCE.”[25] According to a former Algerian diplomat Mohammad Larbi Zitout: “The GIA has been infiltrated and manipulated by the government. The GIA has been completely turned by the government.” Zitout also testified that the regime is behind the massacres.[26] A former career secret service officer in Algeria’s military security, Yussuf-Joseph, reveals: “All the intelligence services in Europe know the government [of Algeria is responsible] for the massacres, in which tens of thousands of Algerians have been killed [and which] have been carried out by the regime’s death squads.” Meanwhile, he confirms, European intelligence services “are keeping quiet because they want to protect their supplies of oil.”[27]

The evidence of this twin Algerian and European governmental complicity in Algeria’s humanitarian crisis only mounts. Robert Fisk, for instance, recorded the testimony of ‘Dalilah’, an Algerian policewoman who was witness to the torture and executions carried out by the Algerian intelligence services: “They tortured people - I saw this happening,” she stated. “I saw innocent people tortured like wild animals... They executed people... people who had done nothing. They had been denounced by people who didn’t get along with them. People just said ‘He’s a terrorist’ and the man would be executed.... They tied young people to a ladder with rope. They were always shirtless, sometimes naked. They put a rag over their face. Then they forced salty water into them. There was a tap with a pipe that they stuck in the prisoner’s throat and they ran the water until the prisoners’ bellies had swelled right up... Sometimes while this happened, the torturers would put broomsticks up their anuses. Some of the prisoners had beards, some didn’t. They were all poor... Any cop would hit the prisoners with the butt of his Kalash (rifle). Some of the prisoners went completely mad from being tortured. Everyone who was brought to the Cavignac was tortured - around 70 per cent of the cops there saw all this. They participated. Although the torture was the job of the judiciary police, the others joined in. The prisoners would be 20 to 30 to a cell and they would be brought one by one to the ladder, kicked in the ribs all the time. It was inhuman. In the cells, the prisoners got a piece of bread every two days. There was no medicine. Every prisoner, according to the law, has the right to a doctor. But they would be returned to their cells covered in blood.”

Fisk comments: “For more than four years released prisoners have told us of water torture and beatings, of suffocation with rags, of how their nails were ripped out by interrogators, of how women were gang-raped by policemen, of secret executions in police stations.” He gives several typical examples: “A police officer who was in charge of the Algiers’ city police armoury has described to The Independent how his colleagues killed prisoners in cold blood, how police torturers suffocated prisoners with acid-soaked rags after tearing out their nails and raping them with bottles. A 30-year old Algiers policewoman has told of how she watched prisoners - at the rate of 12 a day - tied half-naked to ladders in the Cavignac police station in Algiers while, screaming and pleading for mercy, salt water was pumped into their stomachs until they agreed, blindfolded, to sign confessions. The same policewoman admitted to signing false death certificates to prove that dead prisoners had been ‘found’ decomposing in the forests south of Algiers. A 23-year old army conscript spoke of watching officers torture suspected ‘Islamist’ prisoners by boring holes in their legs - and in one case, stomach - with electric drills in a dungeon called the ‘killing room’. And he claimed that he found a false beard amid the clothing of soldiers who had returned from a raid on a village where 28 civilians were later found beheaded; the soldier suspects that his comrades had dressed up as Muslim rebels to carry out the atrocity.”[28]

A former Algerian secret service officer known as Captain ‘Haroune’ - who was authenticated by the British Foreign Office - had also defected, left Algeria, and sought asylum in London. He informed a British House of Commons all-party committee that his ex-colleagues carried out “dirty jobs, including killing of journalists, officers and children”. He confessed, for instance, that the murder of seven Italians in Jenjen in July 1994 was perpetrated by state military security death squads, in order to blacken the name of “Islamic fundamentalists”. Arrested suspects for the murder are merely scapegoats who were forced to sign confessions under torture.[29] The former Algerian agent also testified in 1998 that “It’s the army which is responsible for the massacres; it’s the army which executes the massacres; not the regular soldiers, but a special unit under the orders of the generals. It should be remembered the lands are being privatized, and land is very important. One has first to chase people from their land so that land can be acquired cheaply. And then there must be a certain dose of terror in order to govern the Algerian people and remain in power. A Chinese saying tells that a picture is worth a thousand words. I could not stand the image of a young girl having her throat slit. I could not bear seeing what happened and not tell it. I have children, imagine what this girl had to suffer, the last 10 seconds of her life must have been horrible. I think it’s our duty to speak up about this. I speak today in the hope that others would do the same, so that things change, and so that these killings cease.”[30]

23-08-2006, 20:42
Subsequent reports have only continued to provide further confirmation of all this. For example, in November 1997, a serving officer with the Algerian military known as ‘Hakim’ contacted the French newspaper Le Monde to express the feelings of a group of officers who were sickened by their work. “We have become assassins, working for a caste of crooks who infest the military”, stated Hakim. “They want everything: oil, control of imports, property”. Hakim testified that the murder of seven monks in Algeria on 23 May 1996 - which was blamed on Islamists - had in fact been a hit staged by the Algerian secret police. He also told Le Monde: “I confirm that the outrages of St Michel (in which eight were killed and more than 130 people wounded on 25 July 1995) and that of Maison Blanche (when 13 were wounded on 6 October 1995) were committed at the instigation of the Infiltration and Manipulation Directorate (DIM) of the Directorate of the Intelligence Service (DRS), controlled by Mohammed Mediene, better known under the name ‘Toufik’ and General Smain Lamari.” The objective of the operation had been to “win over public opinion in discrediting the Islamists”. He observed that although Djamel Zitouni - leader of the GIA - was presented as “public enemy number one”, he was in fact a creation of the regime’s military security. “He was recruited in 1991 in an internment camp in the south of Algeria, where thousands of Islamists had been imprisoned.” According to Hakim, the junta had used Djamel to win control over the GIA in 1994. The GIA leader “had been under our control until the Tibehrine affair. The monks were to have been found in the village of an Islamic chief, who would be blamed. For reasons I do not know, he did not respect the contract. So he was liquidated.” Hakim’s revelations regarding the policies of the Algerian authorities soon led to his own liquidation. The Observer reports that “Hakim was tracked down by the Algerian secret police shortly after he contacted Le Monde. They took away his diplomatic passport and sent him to the south - to the Sahara. His family were placed under close watch and were very frightened. (At no time have Hakim’s family been in touch with The Observer.) Then they heard he had been killed in a helicopter accident.”[31]

Indeed, according to the Sunday Times, “One of the worst atrocities occurred in the first three weeks of 1998, when more than 1,000 villagers were massacred, many within 500 yards of an army base that did not deploy a single soldier, despite the fact that the gunfire and screams would have been clearly audible. Villagers said that some of the attackers wore army uniforms.”[32] In the same year, the Observer once more cited “damning evidence contradicting the official line of the Algerian government”. Yet further testimony, this time from Algerian policemen, “gave detailed evidence of the state’s involvement in a whole range of human rights abuses: massacre by military security death squads, torture of the regime’s opponents, spying, and the murder of difficult journalists and popular entertainers to blacken the name of the Islamic activists in carefully organized psychological warfare.”[33]

Further authoritative testimony comes from former Algerian Prime Minister (1984-1988), Dr. Abdel Hameed Al Ibrahimi, a member of the National Liberation Front responsible for consolidating military rule and now Director of a London-based centre for the study of North African affairs. In an interview with Yasser Za’atreh of the London monthly Palestine Times, the former Algerian PM has provided crucial confirmation of the reality of the current Algerian situation: “The crisis in Algeria which was created by the military coup in January 1992 still exists and is becoming worse and more complicated... because the present regime is still insisting on using force and suppression to remain in power and to preserve the illegal benefits it gained at the expense of the general interests of the Algerian people. [T]he regime does not want a true political solution. Instead, it insists on a military solution despite the deterioration of security and economic and social conditions in the country... As for the Islamic armed groups, they are penetrated by the military intelligence service. It is known that most of the mass killings and bombings are made by the government itself whether through special forces or through the local militias (about 200,000 armed men), but the government accuses the Islamists of the violence. All know that the victims of the mass killings are Islamists or ordinary citizens well-known for their support of the Islamic Salvation Front (FIS). Bombings always occur in quarters known to be affiliated with the FIS.”[34]

Al Ibrahimi added that: “As a member of the National Liberation Front, and according to definite information, I am sure that the FIS is absolutely not responsible for such savage and criminal atrocities. On the contrary, the FIS is a victim of these atrocities and has condemned them on several occasions.” According to the former Algerian Prime Minister, the current junta’s objectives are as follows:

http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq4.html

23-08-2006, 20:56

Citaat door Palestine:
Men moet niet vergeten dat een groot deel van de slachtpartijen in Algerijen gepleegd zijn door het leger en de geheime dienst van Algerije. Verder is uit onderzoek gebleken dat meeste doden aanhangers of sympatisanten van de FIS of GIA zijn.
Daar heb je ook een punt... de achtergrond artikelen die je erbij plaatst gaan ook over gebeurtenissen eind jaren 1990... Dat is een verleden waar ze nu proberen om voor eens en altijd een punt achter te zetten, voor zover ik het begrijp. Want ik vraag me echt af hoe democratisch Algerije eigenlijk is. Ze zeggen wel 'verkiezingen' en 'referendum' maar ja... ik heb geen idee hoe dat gaat uitpakken.

Iemand een idee?

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