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  1. #196
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    1.911
    18-01-2017

    Citaat Geplaatst door Foppe Bekijk reactie
    Denk je nu echt dat ik die bullebakken in Tel aviv verdedig?
    Ze moeten allebei ophouden.
    Dat beweer ik ook niet noch beschuldig ik je daarvan.

    Ik laat geen enkele kans onbenut om over het gemene beleid van Israel te schrijven.


    Ontopic;


    Wie heeft er nu zeggenschap over die gasveld?

  2. #197
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    1.911
    18-01-2017

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    Ik wil niemand verdedigen en gedrag aan beide kanten goedpraten.
    Ik blijf erbij dat als ze gaan samenwerken en samenleven dat iedereen kan profiteren van de gasopbrengsten. Maar blijven ze brullen: ikke ikke en mijn mijn.
    Je hoeft alleen de vn-sancties en resoluties te verdedigen. Dan zie je wie de agressor is. We gaan zwaar off-topic Foppe.


    Ontopic; Wat gaat er nu met dat gasveldje gebeuren denk je?

  3. #198
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    25-01-2005

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    Dat beweer ik ook niet noch beschuldig ik je daarvan.

    Ik laat geen enkele kans onbenut om over het gemene beleid van Israel te schrijven.


    Ontopic;


    Wie heeft er nu zeggenschap over die gasveld?
    Ik zou graag zien dat de hele regio profiteert. Maar ik denk dat Israël en Turkije de buit gaan verdelen.
    only the flying spaghetti monster knows............

  4. #199
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    1.911
    18-01-2017

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    Ik zou graag zien dat de hele regio profiteert. Maar ik denk dat Israël en Turkije de buit gaan verdelen.

    Ik denk het ook. Het kan haast ook niet anders.

    Dank voor je antwoorden en tijd Foppe.

  5. #200
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    13-08-2003

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    Deels met je eens Foppe. Die 2 landen kunnen prima naast elkaar samen leven.

    Maar.....

    Zolang Israel tegen alle vn-sancties,vn-rsoluties en de eisen van de i.g. ingaat en er op schijt is Israel de agressor.

    De Palestijnen doen niks anders dan tegen een bezetter vechten conform de VN handboekvest en de Internationale Regels over bezetting.

    Israel is momenteel de agressor door een volk al meer dan 70 jaar te bezetten,onderdrukken,pesten,bestelen en uitmoorden.

    Israel heeft zelfs een wet opgesteld en goed gekeurd door de knesset waarin Palestijnse goederen kunnen worde geconfiqeert.

    Dat deed Nazi-Duitsland ook met de eigendommen van Joden. ( bron kan ik verzoek plaatsen).
    Helemaal mee eens.
    Geweld lost niks op! Vrede is de weg!

    Iedere dode is er één teveel!

  6. #201
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    Je hoeft alleen de vn-sancties en resoluties te verdedigen. Dan zie je wie de agressor is. We gaan zwaar off-topic Foppe.


    Ontopic; Wat gaat er nu met dat gasveldje gebeuren denk je?
    Ik denk dat we alvast mogen concluderen dat de Turken er in ieder geval NIKS te zoeken hebben.
    Geweld lost niks op! Vrede is de weg!

    Iedere dode is er één teveel!

  7. #202
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    16-03-2007

    Die arabieren worden ook door iedereen genaaid hahaha

  8. #203
    MVC Lid

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    09-10-2015

    Wat verwacht je nou van twoface erdogan .
    Citaat Geplaatst door Khodabanda Bekijk reactie
    In principe is er niks mis mee om met Israel samen te werken of te steunen.
    Een rawafid aan het woord

  9. #204
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    09-10-2015

    Turkey, Israel are at advanced stage for gas pipeline route talks, pricing, Israeli energy official says
    ANADOLU AGENCY
    ANKARA
    Published October 13, 2017

    An Israeli gas platform, controlled by a U.S.-Israeli energy group, is seen in the Mediterranean sea, west of Israel's port city of Ashdod, Feb. 25, 2013. (Reuters Photo)
    An Israeli gas platform, controlled by a U.S.-Israeli energy group, is seen in the Mediterranean sea, west of Israel's port city of Ashdod, Feb. 25, 2013. (Reuters Photo)

    Turkey and Israel's talks on the proposed natural gas pipeline construction to bring Israeli gas to Europe are at an "advanced stage", according to the adviser to Israel's Minister of National Infrastructure, Energy and Water Resources on Friday.

    Speaking exclusively to Anadolu Agency, Dror Cohen said discussions between Turkey and Israel were currently on the price and the route of the proposed natural gas pipeline between the two countries.

    The EastMed pipeline project is a European project of common interest, which involves an offshore and onshore natural gas pipeline, directly connecting East Mediterranean resources from the Leviathan gas field in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Israel to Italy and Greece via Southern Cyprus and Crete.

    "We have some issues around the price and around how much and where exactly the pipeline will go. We are in the middle of negotiations," Cohen said, adding that he was hopeful that through flexibility from both Turkey and Israel, an agreement would eventually be made.

    The negotiations involve both private Turkish and Israeli companies as well as government officials.

    In a recent visit to Turkey on the sidelines of 22nd World Petroleum Congress in Istanbul, Israel's Minister of National Infrastructure, Energy and Water Resources, Yuval Steinitz said Turkey and Israel agreed to try to conclude the inter-governmental umbrella agreement that will enable the construction of the Turkey-Israel pipeline by the end of this year.

    The Israeli adviser noted that Israeli officials were also in talks with government officials and CEOs of regional countries stemming from a meeting in Greece a few weeks ago.

    "They are working on a regional agreement. I cannot give more details on this. In Turkey we also have separate negotiations," he said.

    Although he expressed his hope that it was only a matter of time before an agreement was signed with Turkey, declaring that the country was "very, very important to my administration and to my government". He also said that Israel was keeping its options open for the exportation of gas with Greece and Egypt.

    "There are always options, and we do not put any option above the other," he declared.

    "We can do it in parallel with all three [Turkey, Greece, Egypt]," he said, reiterating that Israel just wanted to conduct business and get things going.

    Israel is willing to sign the umbrella agreement between Turkey and Israel that will pave the way for the Turkey-Israel natural gas pipeline, Cohen said.

    "The umbrella agreement will happen, but we need Turkey and Israel's agreement. So all of us have to find the middle ground to make it happen."

    The route and the price are issues that need to be worked out, Cohen explained, adding, "We think that with the Turks we can make things happen. It is just a matter of time until we sign the agreement."

    Cohen expressed his hopes that a visit shortly from Turkey's Minister of Energy and Natural Resources Berat Albayrak in Tel Aviv would move the project along.

    "I think when the time comes and the agreement is on the verge of signing, we will hopefully see him in Tel Aviv. I am waiting, the minister is waiting, our offices are waiting and the whole of Israel is waiting for the minister to come," he said.

    Turkey imports a lot of gas from many countries such as Qatar and Russia, Cohen said highlighting that the country currently used 50 billion cubic meters (bcm) of gas per year. With such demand, more gas can be provided through the Turkey-Israel pipeline, of which the capacity will be decided after calculations are complete, according to Cohen.

    "We will not sign an agreement for the Turkey-Israel pipeline that will not answer all of our requirements. So we will wait for the agreement and then we will build the pipeline. Simple as that," he said.

    Aware of the competitive pricing of gas in the world market, the Israeli adviser argued that the price of Israeli gas would also be competitive, being one of the lowest in the Western world based on long-term contracts rather than the spot market.

    The East Mediterranean region has several natural gas fields, which as yet have not been commercialized via pipelines or LNG facilities, such as the Leviathan field with a capacity of 620 billion cubic meters (bcm) and the Tamar field with 283 bcm in offshore Israel.

    The Leviathan field, discovered in 2009, holds an estimated 613 billion cubic meters (bcm) of gas with 39.4 million barrels of condensates. The field is set to begin production in the fourth quarter of 2019.
    https://www.dailysabah.com/energy/20...-official-says
    Citaat Geplaatst door Khodabanda Bekijk reactie
    In principe is er niks mis mee om met Israel samen te werken of te steunen.
    Een rawafid aan het woord

  10. #205
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    16-11-2006

    Goed bezig. Turkije moet zelf voor zijn energie zorgen.

  11. #206
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    09-10-2015

    Turkey, Israel are at advanced stage for gas pipeline route talks, pricing, Israeli energy official says
    ANADOLU AGENCY
    ANKARA
    Published October 13, 2017

    An Israeli gas platform, controlled by a U.S.-Israeli energy group, is seen in the Mediterranean sea, west of Israel's port city of Ashdod, Feb. 25, 2013. (Reuters Photo)
    An Israeli gas platform, controlled by a U.S.-Israeli energy group, is seen in the Mediterranean sea, west of Israel's port city of Ashdod, Feb. 25, 2013. (Reuters Photo)

    Turkey and Israel's talks on the proposed natural gas pipeline construction to bring Israeli gas to Europe are at an "advanced stage", according to the adviser to Israel's Minister of National Infrastructure, Energy and Water Resources on Friday.

    Speaking exclusively to Anadolu Agency, Dror Cohen said discussions between Turkey and Israel were currently on the price and the route of the proposed natural gas pipeline between the two countries.

    The EastMed pipeline project is a European project of common interest, which involves an offshore and onshore natural gas pipeline, directly connecting East Mediterranean resources from the Leviathan gas field in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Israel to Italy and Greece via Southern Cyprus and Crete.

    "We have some issues around the price and around how much and where exactly the pipeline will go. We are in the middle of negotiations," Cohen said, adding that he was hopeful that through flexibility from both Turkey and Israel, an agreement would eventually be made.

    The negotiations involve both private Turkish and Israeli companies as well as government officials.

    In a recent visit to Turkey on the sidelines of 22nd World Petroleum Congress in Istanbul, Israel's Minister of National Infrastructure, Energy and Water Resources, Yuval Steinitz said Turkey and Israel agreed to try to conclude the inter-governmental umbrella agreement that will enable the construction of the Turkey-Israel pipeline by the end of this year.

    The Israeli adviser noted that Israeli officials were also in talks with government officials and CEOs of regional countries stemming from a meeting in Greece a few weeks ago.

    "They are working on a regional agreement. I cannot give more details on this. In Turkey we also have separate negotiations," he said.

    Although he expressed his hope that it was only a matter of time before an agreement was signed with Turkey, declaring that the country was "very, very important to my administration and to my government". He also said that Israel was keeping its options open for the exportation of gas with Greece and Egypt.

    "There are always options, and we do not put any option above the other," he declared.

    "We can do it in parallel with all three [Turkey, Greece, Egypt]," he said, reiterating that Israel just wanted to conduct business and get things going.

    Israel is willing to sign the umbrella agreement between Turkey and Israel that will pave the way for the Turkey-Israel natural gas pipeline, Cohen said.

    "The umbrella agreement will happen, but we need Turkey and Israel's agreement. So all of us have to find the middle ground to make it happen."

    The route and the price are issues that need to be worked out, Cohen explained, adding, "We think that with the Turks we can make things happen. It is just a matter of time until we sign the agreement."

    Cohen expressed his hopes that a visit shortly from Turkey's Minister of Energy and Natural Resources Berat Albayrak in Tel Aviv would move the project along.

    "I think when the time comes and the agreement is on the verge of signing, we will hopefully see him in Tel Aviv. I am waiting, the minister is waiting, our offices are waiting and the whole of Israel is waiting for the minister to come," he said.

    Turkey imports a lot of gas from many countries such as Qatar and Russia, Cohen said highlighting that the country currently used 50 billion cubic meters (bcm) of gas per year. With such demand, more gas can be provided through the Turkey-Israel pipeline, of which the capacity will be decided after calculations are complete, according to Cohen.

    "We will not sign an agreement for the Turkey-Israel pipeline that will not answer all of our requirements. So we will wait for the agreement and then we will build the pipeline. Simple as that," he said.

    Aware of the competitive pricing of gas in the world market, the Israeli adviser argued that the price of Israeli gas would also be competitive, being one of the lowest in the Western world based on long-term contracts rather than the spot market.

    The East Mediterranean region has several natural gas fields, which as yet have not been commercialized via pipelines or LNG facilities, such as the Leviathan field with a capacity of 620 billion cubic meters (bcm) and the Tamar field with 283 bcm in offshore Israel.

    The Leviathan field, discovered in 2009, holds an estimated 613 billion cubic meters (bcm) of gas with 39.4 million barrels of condensates. The field is set to begin production in the fourth quarter of 2019. https://www.dailysabah.com/energy/20...-official-says
    Citaat Geplaatst door Khodabanda Bekijk reactie
    In principe is er niks mis mee om met Israel samen te werken of te steunen.
    Een rawafid aan het woord

  12. #207
    الله اكبر

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    30-10-2017

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    Turkey, Israel are at advanced stage for gas pipeline route talks, pricing, Israeli energy official says
    ANADOLU AGENCY
    ANKARA
    Published October 13, 2017

    An Israeli gas platform, controlled by a U.S.-Israeli energy group, is seen in the Mediterranean sea, west of Israel's port city of Ashdod, Feb. 25, 2013. (Reuters Photo)
    An Israeli gas platform, controlled by a U.S.-Israeli energy group, is seen in the Mediterranean sea, west of Israel's port city of Ashdod, Feb. 25, 2013. (Reuters Photo)

    Turkey and Israel's talks on the proposed natural gas pipeline construction to bring Israeli gas to Europe are at an "advanced stage", according to the adviser to Israel's Minister of National Infrastructure, Energy and Water Resources on Friday.

    Speaking exclusively to Anadolu Agency, Dror Cohen said discussions between Turkey and Israel were currently on the price and the route of the proposed natural gas pipeline between the two countries.

    The EastMed pipeline project is a European project of common interest, which involves an offshore and onshore natural gas pipeline, directly connecting East Mediterranean resources from the Leviathan gas field in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Israel to Italy and Greece via Southern Cyprus and Crete.

    "We have some issues around the price and around how much and where exactly the pipeline will go. We are in the middle of negotiations," Cohen said, adding that he was hopeful that through flexibility from both Turkey and Israel, an agreement would eventually be made.

    The negotiations involve both private Turkish and Israeli companies as well as government officials.

    In a recent visit to Turkey on the sidelines of 22nd World Petroleum Congress in Istanbul, Israel's Minister of National Infrastructure, Energy and Water Resources, Yuval Steinitz said Turkey and Israel agreed to try to conclude the inter-governmental umbrella agreement that will enable the construction of the Turkey-Israel pipeline by the end of this year.

    The Israeli adviser noted that Israeli officials were also in talks with government officials and CEOs of regional countries stemming from a meeting in Greece a few weeks ago.

    "They are working on a regional agreement. I cannot give more details on this. In Turkey we also have separate negotiations," he said.

    Although he expressed his hope that it was only a matter of time before an agreement was signed with Turkey, declaring that the country was "very, very important to my administration and to my government". He also said that Israel was keeping its options open for the exportation of gas with Greece and Egypt.

    "There are always options, and we do not put any option above the other," he declared.

    "We can do it in parallel with all three [Turkey, Greece, Egypt]," he said, reiterating that Israel just wanted to conduct business and get things going.

    Israel is willing to sign the umbrella agreement between Turkey and Israel that will pave the way for the Turkey-Israel natural gas pipeline, Cohen said.

    "The umbrella agreement will happen, but we need Turkey and Israel's agreement. So all of us have to find the middle ground to make it happen."

    The route and the price are issues that need to be worked out, Cohen explained, adding, "We think that with the Turks we can make things happen. It is just a matter of time until we sign the agreement."

    Cohen expressed his hopes that a visit shortly from Turkey's Minister of Energy and Natural Resources Berat Albayrak in Tel Aviv would move the project along.

    "I think when the time comes and the agreement is on the verge of signing, we will hopefully see him in Tel Aviv. I am waiting, the minister is waiting, our offices are waiting and the whole of Israel is waiting for the minister to come," he said.

    Turkey imports a lot of gas from many countries such as Qatar and Russia, Cohen said highlighting that the country currently used 50 billion cubic meters (bcm) of gas per year. With such demand, more gas can be provided through the Turkey-Israel pipeline, of which the capacity will be decided after calculations are complete, according to Cohen.

    "We will not sign an agreement for the Turkey-Israel pipeline that will not answer all of our requirements. So we will wait for the agreement and then we will build the pipeline. Simple as that," he said.

    Aware of the competitive pricing of gas in the world market, the Israeli adviser argued that the price of Israeli gas would also be competitive, being one of the lowest in the Western world based on long-term contracts rather than the spot market.

    The East Mediterranean region has several natural gas fields, which as yet have not been commercialized via pipelines or LNG facilities, such as the Leviathan field with a capacity of 620 billion cubic meters (bcm) and the Tamar field with 283 bcm in offshore Israel.

    The Leviathan field, discovered in 2009, holds an estimated 613 billion cubic meters (bcm) of gas with 39.4 million barrels of condensates. The field is set to begin production in the fourth quarter of 2019. https://www.dailysabah.com/energy/20...-official-says
    open topic hierover

  13. #208
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    09-10-2015

    Turkey Lobbying Israel to Push Cyprus on Approving Gas Pipeline
    By Selcan Hacaoglu
    20 juli 2017 14:25 CEST

    Officials of both nations discussed gas cooperation last week
    Negotiations over creating a new federal Cyprus have collapsed

    Turkey wants Israel to use its clout to push Cyprus into allowing a pipeline to pass through its waters so the region’s natural gas can be exported to Europe.

    “Israel, as a dominant force in the region, could push Cyprus to agree to a compromise deal on the drilling of gas and construction of an export gas pipeline via Turkey” to the benefit of all sides, said Reha Denemec, an adviser to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Officials from both countries discussed possible cooperation on gas during a conference last week in Istanbul, he said. Israel’s Energy Ministry had no immediate comment.

    Israel and Turkey patched up ties recently after years of diplomatic estrangement and are eager to advance an energy deal that would help transform Israel into a gas exporter and bolster Turkey as a key gas portal for European states. One key obstacle has been Turkey’s conflict with Cyprus, which has been divided since 1974, with northern Cyprus controlled by a self-declared state supported by Turkey. The latest round of United Nations-sponsored reunification talks faltered earlier this month.

    In the past, Turkish officials have said that a pipeline could be built through Cypriot economic waters even without Cypriot consent under international maritime laws. Cyprus disputes that stance. A government official on Thursday said that a pipeline passing through the nation’s waters would only be viable and sustainable once Turkey respects Cypriot jurisdiction over its maritime zones. No third party could dictate the “excellent” relations between Cyprus and Israel, the official said, requesting anonymity in line with government policy.
    Short Route

    Energy companies developing Israel’s largest natural gas reservoir, led by Israel’s Delek Group Ltd. and Houston, Texas-based Noble Energy Inc., have earmarked 9 billion cubic meters for regional export. The companies are in talks with Turkish firms on a potential deal, but have several hurdles to clear first.

    “Europe is the biggest market for the gas from the Mediterranean basin. Countries in the region, including Israel, are looking for a way out,” Denemec, who is also a co-founder of Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party, said Wednesday in an interview in his Ankara office. “The only solution is to use existing natural gas pipelines in Turkey and that would only require construction of a short pipeline between Cyprus and Turkey under the sea.”

    Cyprus has been divided since 1974, when Turkey invaded the north to protect the Turkish Cypriot minority against a coup to unite the island with Greece.

    During a visit to northern Cyprus on Thursday to mark the military intervention, Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim scolded Cyprus for its “unilateral, timeless and dangerous” search for gas in the Mediterranean, adding that such moves damage the spirit of regional cooperation. “Turkey will continue to protect its and Turkish Cypriots’ rights and interests in the Mediterranean under international law,” he said.

    Earlier this month, the Cyprus Foreign Ministry said revenue from hydrocarbons would be deposited in a fund to be used “for the benefit of all Cypriots.”

    Cyprus has some leverage. Undersea pipelines have become more attractive to companies seeking to develop energy projects, as plunging oil prices have dented the economics behind building new and costly liquefied natural gas terminals, Denemec said. That means Turkey and Cyprus need to figure out a compromise that satisfies both sides.

    “There may not be a reunification,” Denemec said. “But a solution could be found that could bring good to both sides.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...g-gas-pipeline
    Citaat Geplaatst door Khodabanda Bekijk reactie
    In principe is er niks mis mee om met Israel samen te werken of te steunen.
    Een rawafid aan het woord

  14. #209
    MVC Lid

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    09-10-2015

    Citaat Geplaatst door Khodabanda Bekijk reactie
    In principe is er niks mis mee om met Israel samen te werken of te steunen.
    Een rawafid aan het woord

  15. #210
    الله اكبر

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    30-10-2017

    Citaat Geplaatst door Wouldcha3b Bekijk reactie
    volgens Frozn moet Turkije Iran en Irak medina al munawara aanvallen

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