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fire_fighter
07-12-2004, 00:23


Khomeini's Religious Teachings on sex with Animals "The meat of horses, mules, or donkeys is not recommended. It is strictly forbidden if the animal was sodomized while alive by a man. In that case, the animal must be taken outside the city and sold." "If one commits an act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned, and the price of it paid to its owner by him who sodomized it." "It is forbidden to consume the excrement of animals or their nasal secretions. But if such are mixed in minute proportions into other foods their consumption is not forbidden." "If a man __ God protect him from it! _ fornicates with an animal and ejaculates, ablution is necessary." A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister. The complete Persian text of this saying is listed below. Ayatollah Khomeini in Tahrirolvasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom On Ablution During sexual intercourse, if the penis enters a woman's vagina or a man's anus, fully or only as far as the circumcision ring, both partners become impure, even if they have not reached puberty; they must consequently perform their ablutions. Note: Therefore, homosexuality and pedophilia are accepted in Islam. Why then the punishment for homosexuality is death? A man who has ejaculated and has not yet performed his ablution must avoid the following ten acts: eating; drinking; reading more than seven verses of the Koran; touching the binding of Koran, or the margin of its pages, or spaces between the lines; carrying the Koran on his person; sleeping; dyeing his beard with henna; anointing himself with grease or oil; having sexual intercourse after having ejaculated in his sleep. If a man becomes aroused by a woman other than his wife but then has intercourse with his own wife, it is preferable for him not to pray if he has sweated; but if he first has intercourse with his wife and then with another woman, he may say his prayers even though he be in a sweat. A man who has ejaculated as a result of intercourse with a woman other than his wife, and who then ejaculates again while having coitus with his wife, does not have the right to say his prayers while still sweating; but if he has had intercourse with his wife first and then with a woman not his wife, he may say his prayers even though still sweating. Note: If a man can have sexual relation with a woman who is not his wife why is adultery punishable with death by stoning? Is the woman only to be blamed? If a fly or any other insect settled first on something impure that is moist and then on something pure that is moist, the later in turns becomes impure, provided one can be certain that the former was impure; failing that, it remains pure. Note: let¹s run after flies and insects to find out where they settle. Besides the ablutions that are necessary and unavoidable there are a number of ablutions that are highly recommended in order to please God. A few of them are: Ablution performed Friday between dawn and noon. Ablution performed on the eve of the first day of Ramadan and the eves of all the odd days of that month, (third, fifth, seventh, and so on). The ablutions on the eves of the first, fifteenth, seventeenth, nineteenth, twenty-first, twenty-third, twenty-fifth, twenty-seventh, and twenty-ninth days of Ramadan are especially recommended. On the eve of the twenty-third day, one would be well advised to perform two ablutions, one at the beginning and the other at the end of the night. Ablution performed by a woman who has used perfume for a man other than her husband. Ablution of the man who has fallen asleep while in a drunken state. Ablution of a man or woman who, during a total eclipse of the sun or the moon, have not said their prayers. Ablution of one who has witnessed the hanging of a person condemned to death. If he did not witness it of his own free will, ablution is not necessarily required. Note: This is one way of keeping them clean. Khomeini on Woman and Her Periods "During the time a woman is menstruating, it is preferable for a man to avoid coitus, even if it does not involve full penetration- that is, as far as the circumcision ring *and even if it does not involve ejaculation. It is also highly inadvisable for him to sodomize her during this time. If the number of days of the woman's menstrual period is divided by three, a husband who has intercourse with her during the first two days must pay equivalent of 18 nokhods (each nokhod is about 3 grams) of gold to the poor; if he has it on the third or fourth days the equivalent of 9 nokhods; and if he has it during the last two days, the equivalent of 41/2 nokhods. Sodomizing a menstruating woman does not require such payment. If a man has intercourse with his wife during all three of these periods, he must pay the equivalent of 31/2 nokhods in gold to the poor. If the price of gold has changed between the time of coitus and the time of payment, the rate in effect on the day of payment will prevail. If during an act of intercourse a man notices that the woman has begun menstruating, he must withdraw, if he fails to, he must give alms to the poor. If such a man cannot afford to give alms to the poor, he must at least give something to a beggar. If he cannot afford that either, he must ask forgiveness of God. After a wife's menstrual period, her husband may repudiate her, even if she has not yet made her ablutions. He may also indulge in relations with her, but it is preferable that he wait until she has made her ablutions. In the interim, the woman is not authorized to do anything which is forbidden to her during menstruation, such as going into a mosque or touching the writings of the Koran, until she has completed her ablutions." Notes: It seems it is a lot better if the couple have sex during the entire menstrual period. It would cost 31/2 nokhods rather than 18 nokhods if happens in the first two days. It also says that a man should not sodomize his wife only during this period. However, if he does, no alms is required. Brond :http://www.homa.org/ En niet snappen dat ik moslims een beetje achterlijke mensen vind.

Blizzard
07-12-2004, 00:34
Brond :http://www.homa.org/ En niet snappen dat ik moslims een beetje achterlijke mensen vind.Samenvatting? In het nederlands op NL site? En niet snappen dat ik jou een ERG achterlijk mens vind.

fire_fighter
07-12-2004, 00:41
Samenvatting? In het nederlands op NL site? En niet snappen dat ik jou een ERG achterlijk mens vind. Ik snap niet wat jouw probleem is "In het nederlands op NL site" ? Ik hoef het toch niet voor je te vertalen, toch of wel. :confused:

Farkoessa
07-12-2004, 00:42
jongen als ik dingen ga zoeken wat mensen zoals jij doen... joh ... dan ben ik morgen nog niet klaar met plaatsen... a :loser:

nadiak
07-12-2004, 00:56


Brond :http://www.homa.org/ En niet snappen dat ik moslims een beetje achterlijke mensen vind. Tja als jij niet begrijpt dat dat geen moslim is jah dat kunnen we er weinig aan doen...

hasshessstyle20
07-12-2004, 00:57
wajaw engels zehma zelf gedaan volgens mij heeft de gene overgetypt muwahahahahha laters ik had niks te doen hey farkoessa groetjes meid

fire_fighter
07-12-2004, 00:58
Tja als jij niet begrijpt dat dat geen moslim is jah dat kunnen we er weinig aan doen... jij gaat mij wijs maken dat Khomeini geen moslim is.

fire_fighter
07-12-2004, 00:59
wajaw engels zehma zelf gedaan volgens mij heeft de gene overgetypt muwahahahahha laters ik had niks te doen hey farkoessa groetjes meid de orginele arabische text staat op de site.

R0osje
07-12-2004, 01:15
Brond :http://www.homa.org/ En niet snappen dat ik moslims een beetje achterlijke mensen vind. Shi iten worden niet gezien als moslims, dus er is er maar een gek hier en dat ben jij toch echt!! :ego:

nadiak
07-12-2004, 01:17
jij gaat mij wijs maken dat Khomeini geen moslim is. Klopt iemand die zoiets zegt is geen moslim, voor de rest kan ik over niemand oordelen...

fire_fighter
07-12-2004, 01:17
Shi iten worden niet gezien als moslims, dus er is er maar een gek hier en dat ben jij toch echt!! :ego: Ze zien zichzelf toch echt wel als moslim

fire_fighter
07-12-2004, 01:20
Klopt iemand die zoiets zegt is geen moslim, voor de rest kan ik over niemand oordelen... Ja ja die ken ik onderhand wel, als iemand moord is het geen moslim, als iemand steelt is het geen moslim, als iemand een of andere zonde begaat is het geen moslim. Je kan je dan gaan afvragen of er wel moslims bestaan. vroeg of laat is iedereen wel eens 'haram' geweest.

R0osje
07-12-2004, 01:20
Ze zien zichzelf toch echt wel als moslim Ja nou en.... dan hebben ze mooi pecht gehad!!

fire_fighter
07-12-2004, 01:39
Ja nou en.... dan hebben ze mooi pecht gehad!! want jij gaat erover wie wel of geen moslim is :confused:

HollandseVriend
07-12-2004, 01:43


Shi iten worden niet gezien als moslims, dus er is er maar een gek hier en dat ben jij toch echt!! :ego: Alleen ALLAH bepaalt wie echte moslims zijn..


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