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LZN
06-05-2004, 23:09


Er is een tijd van komen en er is een tijd van gaan... Lange tijd heb ik hier met zeer veel plezier gepost, maar dat plezier erin hebben is zolangzamerhand wel over. Ik ben het beu, het gescheld, gezeik, beschuldigingen die nergens op slaan, het belachelijk gemaakt worden, genoeg is genoeg. Dus iedereen met wie ik hier een fijne tijd heb gehad bedankt, de rest, ach, veel geluk in het verdere leven en veel wijsheid gewenst. Vaarwel allen, ik ga me weereens bezig houden met dingen waar ik wel welkom ben en geen bergen gezeik over me heen krijg..

Sword_of_Islam
06-05-2004, 23:11
Hoe ontroerend

minous21
06-05-2004, 23:13
NEE, niet gaan.........................

nour_el_imen_
06-05-2004, 23:20
je moet je niet laten wegjagen door mensen die het niet waard zijn......... maar toch bedankt voor je inzet........

sahira
06-05-2004, 23:21


Origineel gepost door Corrie Er is een tijd van komen en er is een tijd van gaan... Lange tijd heb ik hier met zeer veel plezier gepost, maar dat plezier erin hebben is zolangzamerhand wel over. Ik ben het beu, het gescheld, gezeik, beschuldigingen die nergens op slaan, het belachelijk gemaakt worden, genoeg is genoeg. Dus iedereen met wie ik hier een fijne tijd heb gehad bedankt, de rest, ach, veel geluk in het verdere leven en veel wijsheid gewenst. Vaarwel allen, ik ga me weereens bezig houden met dingen waar ik wel welkom ben en geen bergen gezeik over me heen krijg. Je bent niet de enige die zich stoort aan het gescheld etc. Jammer! Jammer ook, dat jij je erdoor weg laat jagen, Corrie maar ik kan me voorstellen dat het eens te veel wordt. Het gaat je goed en tot ooit! :zwaai:

Sword_of_Islam
06-05-2004, 23:28
Origineel gepost door Oppasser Tja, in de oorlog gaat 't er hard aan toe. Maar dit is nog niks vergeleken met wat nog komen gaat..... Nu ben ik echt bang geworden geeuw

sahira
06-05-2004, 23:29
Origineel gepost door Oppasser Tja, in de oorlog gaat 't er hard aan toe. Maar dit is nog niks vergeleken met wat nog komen gaat..... Woedt er op dit moment een oorlog op marokko.nl? En wat gaat er nog gebeuren?

sahira
06-05-2004, 23:30
Origineel gepost door Sword_of_Islam Hoe ontroerend Vreemd om jou hier te zien reageren op Corrie, ging deze topic over de Islam? Of mag jij willekeurig reageren wanneer jij wilt?

sahira
06-05-2004, 23:35
Origineel gepost door Sword_of_Islam Hoe ontroerend Question : I am a girl who believes in Allaah and His Messenger. Is it permissible for me to correspond with a young man through what is known as the “Pen pal corner”?. Answer : Praise be to Allaah. It is not permissible for you to correspond with a young man who is not a mahram for you through what is known as the “Pen pal corner”, because that is something that leads to fitnah (temptation) and to evil and corruption. And Allaah is the Source of strength Question : I have heard a ruling regarding the reasons a male Muslims is allowed to speak to a Muslim female and want to know if it is correct. It said that there are only five reasons one may talk to her: 1. to ask how her family 2. for medical purposes 3. for financial purposes (e.g. in a shop) 4. to find out about her personality for marriage suitability 5. to give her dawah (Islamic knowledge). Is this correct? If it is, please provide the evidence from where the ruling is made (i.e. Daleel). Answer : Praise be to Allaah. The conditions for speaking to a woman to whom one is not related are mentioned in the following aayaat (interpretation of the meaning): ". . . And when you ask (his wives) for anything you want, ask them from behind a screen; that is purer for your hearts and for their hearts . . ." [al-Ahzaab 33:53] ". . . then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honourable manner." [al-Ahzaab 33:32] Ibn Katheer, may Allaah have mercy on him, said in his Tafseer: "This means that they should not speak softly. Allaah commanded them to speak in a concise and decisive manner (i.e., they should be serious and brief in their speech, and not be vague or talk aimlessly). There should be no possible indication on the face that could be taken to indicate any softness in the heart, as the Arab women (before Islaam) used to do when speaking to men, by making their voices soft like women who are taking care of small children, or like prostitutes. Allaah forbade women to do that. The phrase "lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire" means lest such a person should hope for immoral deeds, indecency or romance. "Speaking in an honourable manner" means speaking in a way that does not go against Sharee’ah or offend people. Women are encouraged when speaking to men to whom they are not related and to mahrams among their in-laws to be somewhat rough or abrupt in their speech, without raising the voice, because they are commanded to lower their voice. Speaking with a woman to whom one is not related (i.e., not mahram) should only be for a specific need, such as asking a question, buying or selling, asking about the head of the household, and so on. Such conversations should be brief, with nothing doubtful in either what is said or how it is said. The idea of limiting speech with women to the five instances mentioned in the question needs to be approached with caution, because they could be taken as examples instead of limits. One must also adhere to the conditions set out by the Sharee’ah even in instances where such conversations are necessary, such as in da’wah, giving fatwas, buying or selling, etc. And Allaah knows best. Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (www.islam-qa.com) Of ben je deze post van een paar dagen geleden alweer vergeten?

sahira
06-05-2004, 23:37
Origineel gepost door Sword_of_Islam Hoe ontroerend Question : is it allowed for a brother to organise i talk and the speaker is a sister. the issue is on women in islam but the sister is talking to every on (brothers and sister)i thought it's not but the organisors say it is allowed but they ask for evidence is there any on this issue Answer : Praise be to Allaah. We put this question to Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Jibreen (may Allaah preserve him) who answered as follows: In our opinion this is not permissible except in cases of necessity, and on the condition that the men cannot see her. There should be a screen between her and them, and she should not soften her voice too much, because her voice may be ‘awrah. Women are not allowed to say Tasbeeh out loud in the prayer – if the imaam makes a mistake – instead they are commanded to clap [to draw the imaam’s attention to a mistake], lest their voices be recognized. Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Jibreen At this point we would ask the brothers who are organizing these lectures: what need is there for a woman to give a lecture in front of a group of people which includes men? We hope that the answer will not be because they want to prove that Islam does not oppress women or to prove that they are open-minded and enlightened! Or any other weird and mistaken reasons that can never be used to justify opening the doors to fitnah (temptation) which Islam seeks to shut firmly. We constantly repeat our advice: organize your activities within the framework of sharee’ah. And Allaah is the Guide to the Straight Path. And Allaah knows best. Islam Q&A Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (www.islam-qa.com) Of misschien is deze beter?

Ole_Guapa
06-05-2004, 23:41
Hoi Corrie, jammer dat je weggaat. Ik vond jouw reacties altijd getuigen van wijsheid. (Al was ik het niet altijd met je eens :-) ) Maar ik begrijp heel goed dat je gaat en je energie gaat richten op zaken waar je meer voldoening uit kunt halen. Heel veel geluk gewenst. Groeten van Olé Guapa

sahira
06-05-2004, 23:41
Origineel gepost door Sword_of_Islam Hoe ontroerend My question is about the adab or the manner between a brother and sister? I need clarifcation, are we allowed to give salam to sister who is not your muhram or talk to her as you talk to a brother, and how much you allowed to talk? and what about the non-muhram who are cousine, for example the uncles daughter Am I allowed to give salam and talk to her, and how is her life?please provide for me daleel(proof) and what about marriage? what allowed talk and salam, ( what is allowed and not) all these things! because today people mixed between culture and deen, when you tell them about that they say you are bringing new religon!, even alot brothers who relgious don't know this, you may see salafy brother talking weetlgy to sister who were nikab and not his muhram, Answer : Praise be to Allaah. In brief, what the fuqaha’ have said about women’s voices is that they are not ‘awrah in and of themselves, and there is nothing wrong with listening to them when there is a need to do so, so they do not forbid listening to them, but certain conditions apply, as follows: The woman should speak without elongating the words, making her voice soft, or raising her voice. It is haraam for a man to listen with enjoyment, for fear of fitnah (temptation). The decisive factor for knowing what is haraam in the matter of women’s speaking is what is included in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep your duty (to Allaah), then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy, or evil desire for adultery, etc.) should be moved with desire, but speak in an honourable manner.” [al-Ahzaab 33:32] What is forbidden is being too soft in speech. It is obligatory for women to speak in an honourable manner, which means, as the mufassireen explained, that they should not make their voices soft when addressing men. In conclusion, what is required of the Muslim woman when she speaks to a non-mahram man is that she should adhere to what is mentioned in this aayah. She should refrain from what is forbidden and should fulfil her duties. She should speak only when necessary, and only about matters that are permissible and honourable, not evil. Between a woman and a non-mahram man there should be no intonation, gestures, chat, joking, flirting or playful talk, so that there will be no room for provocation of desires and doubts. Women are not prevented from talking to non-mahram men when it is necessary to do so, such as dealing directly with them when buying things or conducting any other financial transaction, because in such cases it is necessary for both parties to speak. A woman may also ask a scholar about some legal Islamic matter, or a man may ask a woman such questions, as is proven in various texts of the Qur’aan and Sunnah. Within the guidelines described above, there is nothing wrong with a woman speaking to a non-mahram man. It is also permissible for men to greet women with salaam and vice versa, according to the most correct opinion, but this greeting must be free of anything that may provoke desire in the person in whose heart is a disease, so as to be safe from fitnah and pay attention to the regulations outlined above. If there is fear of fitnah being provoked by this greeting, then the woman should refrain from either initiating or returning the greeting, because warding off fitnah by neglecting the greeting is warding off mischief, and warding off mischief takes precedence over doing something useful. (See al-Mufassal fi Ahkaam al-Mar’ah by ‘Abd al-Kareem Zaydaan, vol 3/276). And Allaah knows best. Islam Q&A Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (www.islam-qa.com) Sorry, kan het niet laten, nog een post waarin jij wilt aantonen dat moslims niet met vreemden mogen praten, MITS het volgens jou over de Islam gaat. Je bent niet geloofwaardig in je antwoorden, je verwijt een ander wat je zelf wel doet.... :rolleyes:

naoual1985
06-05-2004, 23:44
Origineel gepost door Corrie Er is een tijd van komen en er is een tijd van gaan... Lange tijd heb ik hier met zeer veel plezier gepost, maar dat plezier erin hebben is zolangzamerhand wel over. Ik ben het beu, het gescheld, gezeik, beschuldigingen die nergens op slaan, het belachelijk gemaakt worden, genoeg is genoeg. Dus iedereen met wie ik hier een fijne tijd heb gehad bedankt, de rest, ach, veel geluk in het verdere leven en veel wijsheid gewenst. Vaarwel allen, ik ga me weereens bezig houden met dingen waar ik wel welkom ben en geen bergen gezeik over me heen krijg. Heb je je weleens afgevraagd waarom ze dat doen of niet.. Wat ik kan je vertellen alles heeft zijn redenen, zelfs fout gedrag! Ik heb de laatste tijd veel bewondering voor je gekregen en veel van je geleerd. Je hebt veel mensen laten zien dat het ook anders kan. Veel succes en ik hoop dat je je toch bedenkt.

DaNGeRouZLy
06-05-2004, 23:46
corrie ik ken je wel niet maar heb wel wat reacties van jou gelezen. hopelijk heeft je plezier hier zwaarder gewogen dan de irritaties. doeiiii xxxaminaatje :zwaai:

sahira
06-05-2004, 23:59


Origineel gepost door dot_nl Ach Sahira, zoals een gezegde bij ons klinkt "De k0nt verwijt de keutel dat hij bruin ziet." Zo is het ook met mensen die niet nadenken over wat ze zeggen maar enkel belangrijk willen overkomen. Gewoon laten geworden deze mensen en blijven spiegelen ben je aardig goed in ;) Hier zeggen ze 'de pot verwijt de ketel dat ie bruin ziet'..leuk die variaties in gezegdes, maar de strekking blijft. Nogmaals, ik kon het niet laten.


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