Amerikaanse sergeant en specialist gelooft niet dat 11-9 door Al Qaeda is gedaan.

[Mister1979]

Korte samenvatting in Nederlands:

Sergeant First Class Donald Buswelldie 19 jaar voor het Amerikaanse leger heeft gediend en die nu werkt als inlichtenanalist is beschuldigd van landveraad omdat hij in e-mails had geschreven dat hij twijfelt aan 11-9 en dat de onderzoek naar 11-9 vol fouten en onwaarheden zit. En dat er een vliegtuig in Pentagon is ingevlogen kan volgens hem niet omdat er geen sporen van de vleugels in het Pentagon zitten en nog andere bewijzen ontbreken. Hij schreef in zijn e-mail dat hij een nieuwe onderzoek wil naar 11-9 en dat alles verhalen gehoord moeten worden om de waarheid naar boven te halen.







Tue, 23 Aug 2006 11:07:54

Army: Doubting Official 9/11 Story Is ‘Disloyal To The United States’

FT. SAM HOUSTON, Texas — Forty-one-year-old Sergeant First Class Donald Buswell is a hero. Having served over 19 years in the United States Army, Buswell has seen a lot of terrain. On April 15, 2004, he was injured in a rocket attack while serving a tour in Iraq. For this, SFC Buswell was given a Purple Heart. And until recently, Buswell was an Intelligence Analyst stationed at Ft. Sam Houston, Texas.

But if one were to ask Buswell’s Commanding Officer what he thinks of the Sergeant, the response would likely sound a little bit more like, "No comment."

Such were the words given to The Iconoclast by Lieutenant Colonel Jane Crichton after inquiring why SFC Buswell is the focus of an investigation initiated by Colonel Luke S. Green, Chief of Staff at Fifth Army in Ft. Sam Houston.

According to unnamed military sources contacted by The Iconoclast, SFC Buswell "used his Government issued email account to send messages disloyal to the United States …" Because of these statements, SFC Buswell could soon find himself dishonorably discharged, court marshaled, or worse.

It all started as a simple response to a common, unsolicited mass email, sent to 38 individuals at Ft. Sam Houston on Aug. 2, 2006. The message, as well as Buswell’s response, is among documents obtained by The Iconoclast. The sender of the first message is identified as "Anderson, Larry Mr JMC". It reads:

This is being sent more as assurance for what happens when a plane hits a nuclear site more so than in response to that German website alleging a government conspiracy related to the 9/11 Pentagon plane crash (though the website does present an interesting perspective) – LarrySubject: F-4 vs. Concrete Wall

Take a look at this clip [not included] and you’ll get a good feel for what happens to an airplane when it hits a concrete wall. Many of you have seen the produced (but not factual), Michael Moore-esque website that asks the question; "If it’s true that a Boeing airliner hit the Pentagon, what happened to all the parts of it? Why do we not find more pieces of it?

Where did all that mass GO???" (Therefore, the paranoid loony liberal reasoning, 9-11 must have been a US gov’t conspiracy!) Well, for those who question what happened to "all the mass of that airplane".......watch this clip.

It’s the old Air Force engineering tests of the concrete barrier that surrounds nuclear reactor domes —tests to see if it will indeed survive an aerial attack. With the hi-speed cameras rolling, they accelerated an F-4 Phantom to 500mph and.........

Recall: "What happens when an ‘Unstoppable Force’ meets an ‘Immovable Object’???" (Remember, as you watch in slow motion as the F-4 turns to vapor, the Phantom was one of the toughest airplanes ever built).

SFC Buswell responded later that day, saying:

Subject: F-4 vs. Concrete Wall Hello,

I receive many unsolicited e-mails daily, this one I chose to respond to. The below mentioned premise that an F4 Phantom fighter jet hitting that hardened concrete barrier is akin to the alleged 757 hitting the Pentagon is like oil and water; they don’t mix, and they serve to muddy the issue. The issue is 911 was filled with errors in the ‘official report’ and ‘official story’ of that day, and, what happened that day. We all know and saw 2 planes hitting the WTC buildings, we didn’t see the 757 hit the Pentagon, nor did we see the plane crash in Shanksville PA. Both the PA and Pentagon ‘crashes’ don’t have clues and tell-tale signs of a jumbo-jet impacting those zones!

The Pentagon would have huge wing impacts in the side of the building; it didn’t. Shanksville PA would have had debris, and a large debris field; it didn’t.

Getting back to the F4...The Pentagon isn’t a nuclear hardened structure, so I can’t follow your weak logic that since an F4 vaporized itself in a test impact on a nuclear hardened structure that the alleged 757 hitting the Pentagon should have exhibited the same characteristics!

I say Occums razor is the best way to deduce this ‘day of infamy’; if you weigh all options, do some simple studying you will see 911 was clearly not executed by some arabs in caves with cell phones and 3 day old newspapers! I mean how are Arabs benefiting from pulling off 911? They have more war, more death and dismal conditions, so, how did 911 benefit them? Answer: It didn’t. So, who benefited from 9-11? The answer is sad, but simple; The Military Industial [sic] Complex.

It’s not a paranoid conspiracy to think there are conspiracies out there...and, it’s not Liberal Lunacy either, nor is it Conservative Kookiness! People, fellow citizens we’ve been had! We must demand a new independent investigation into 911 and look at all options of that day, and all plausabilities [sic], even the most incredulous theories must be examined.

Upon returning to his office the next day, Buswell discovered the locks had been changed, his security clearance was revoked, and an investigation had been launched. Buswell’s commanding officer, Colonel Luke Green, drafted a letter assigning Major Edwin Escobar to the investigation. According to sources, Colonel Green has asserted that SFC Buswell failed to obey Army regulations when he used his government issued email account to send what have been termed as messages disloyal to the United States with the intent of stirring up disloyalty, in a manner that brings discredit upon the United States Army.

It has been reported that Colonel Green also wrote that SFC Buswell claims to have information proving a conspiracy on the part of the United States Military Industrial Complex to attack targets within the United States, e.g., The Pentagon. Officials have suggested that the email response sent by SFC Buswell may be in violation of CFR 2635.705(a ), DoD-R 5500.7, and Joint Ethics Regulation paragraph 2-301b. These rules SFC Buswell is said to have perhaps violated regulate how soldiers utilize government resources, how they use their off-duty time, and how they use their official time.

The Iconoclast attempted to establish a dialogue with Colonel Green and Major Escobar, but calls were not returned as of press time. SFC Buswell declined to comment on the investigation, but noted that he spoke with his parents about the matter for a period of two days before he was ordered to not disclose any further information.

"My son spoke with me about [the investigation]," said Winthrop Buswell, SFC Buswell’s father. "There was an unsolicited email. My son, without divulging anything, without usurping anything, without doing anything to discredit anyone in any way, simply responded to that saying ‘Yes, there are what if’s. And maybe there is something that is being covered up.’ That’s all that I know. He responded to it, but it was unsolicited. I think – of course, I’m dad, being very much in love with his son and wanting to praise him – because he is a low man on the totem pole, of course he’s of pretty high rank but not quite an officer, that maybe … Maybe an investigation might be the scapegoat for whomever."

http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=426&z=54

[Mister1979]

Vervolg

"That is so ridiculous," said Winthrop Buswell. "[To say he is disloyal to the United States] is totally ridiculous. And the discourtesy was, ah, very apparent at that particular time. … I’ve always thought the American way is this: to disagree is important. To dissent is important. And my son simply said, without any fanfare, ‘Look, let’s take a look at the whole picture. If you want to take a look at that, maybe there are a few paragraphs that a Michael Moore might want to emphasize.’ That is all that my son has said. Never, however, to at all disparage the country and the patriotism that is so necessary for all of us. But, patriotism, as suggested by FOX News’ [Bill O’Reilly], is following the line of George W. Bush and cohorts completely! All my son is saying is, ‘Hey, maybe there’s a what if.’ Never, though, did he get sidetracked from the fact that [he loves his] country."

"What disturbed him more than anything else, I think, was the fact that the Iraqi citizens suffered so much and are suffering so much now," said Winthrop Buswell. "The time that he was injured, there were several Iraqis burning to death in front of him. He tried to put out the fire. It was a traumatic experience for him. … He spoke about that a number of times, and how terrible that was to see the citizenry being killed and suffering so much."

"One of his heroes is Abraham Lincoln," Winthrop Buswell continued. "And Abraham Lincoln said many things, but one of the things he said - and I’m paraphrasing - was, ‘I may disagree with the fellow who’s speaking, but I will stand and defend his right to speak.’ That’s my son’s position. He does look at the what if’s. But that doesn’t take away from his dedication and his patriotism. I don’t know a fellow who gets more chills running up and down his spine when he sees the flag flying."

"As a boy, [Donald was] always a very curious fellow," he added. "Very daring, but never risking anything or stepping over the line. He loved motorcycles, but was always very cautious about it, always wearing proper clothing, always wearing a helmet. Also, he was very active in little model racing cars. He was in Cub Scouts. I remember walking to the gymnasium with him and having wonderful conversations with him years ago. His mother and I went through a divorce, and that is never easy for anyone. My son was also very close to his grandfather on his mother’s side, and also his grandfather and grandmother on my side. Donald loves railroading, and my father has the best job that anyone could ever have. He’s a locomotive engineer, and my son related to that. My son also has a strong belief in a power greater than ourselves."

"But one of the things that stands out … is his love and his caring," said Winthrop, choking back tears. "He loves children. He’s just the greatest guy, as far as I am concerned. He walks into a room with a big smile on his face. … He’s like my dad – he makes you feel like, you know … I … I care for you. Ah, he’s … He’s my son …"

The Iconoclast will continue reporting on this story as new details become available.

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http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/426-buswellprofile.jpg

[KILL SWITCH]

Hoeveel heeft hij gekregen om dit verhaal tedoen?
Met geld is alles tekoop:hihi:

[TagnaNtfoeloest]

Hoeveel heeft hij gekregen om dit verhaal tedoen?
Met geld is alles tekoop:hihi:
van wie zou hij dat geld hebben gekregen?:moe:

[Mister1979]

Ieder persoon die zich een beetje verdiept in 11-9 ziet dat er veel dingen niet kloppen, maar als je in Amerika je mond opendoet en een nieuwe onderzoek eist wordt je gezien als landverader en ben je, je baan kwijt.

Iedereen die in Amerika twijfelt aan 11-9 wordt de mond gesnoerd.

[HungLikeaBull14]

Iedereen die in Amerika twijfelt aan 11-9 wordt de mond gesnoerd.

Hoe kom je daarbij? Die complot films vliegen je om de oren en worden echt nergens gecensureerd.

[sexywoman]

Korte samenvatting in Nederlands:

Sergeant First Class Donald Buswelldie 19 jaar voor het Amerikaanse leger heeft gediend en die nu werkt als inlichtenanalist is beschuldigd van landveraad omdat hij in e-mails had geschreven dat hij twijfelt aan 11-9 en dat de onderzoek naar 11-9 vol fouten en onwaarheden zit. En dat er een vliegtuig in Pentagon is ingevlogen kan volgens hem niet omdat er geen sporen van de vleugels in het Pentagon zitten en nog andere bewijzen ontbreken. Hij schreef in zijn e-mail dat hij een nieuwe onderzoek wil naar 11-9 en dat alles verhalen gehoord moeten worden om de waarheid naar boven te halen.







Tue, 23 Aug 2006 11:07:54

Army: Doubting Official 9/11 Story Is ‘Disloyal To The United States’

FT. SAM HOUSTON, Texas — Forty-one-year-old Sergeant First Class Donald Buswell is a hero. Having served over 19 years in the United States Army, Buswell has seen a lot of terrain. On April 15, 2004, he was injured in a rocket attack while serving a tour in Iraq. For this, SFC Buswell was given a Purple Heart. And until recently, Buswell was an Intelligence Analyst stationed at Ft. Sam Houston, Texas.

But if one were to ask Buswell’s Commanding Officer what he thinks of the Sergeant, the response would likely sound a little bit more like, "No comment."

Such were the words given to The Iconoclast by Lieutenant Colonel Jane Crichton after inquiring why SFC Buswell is the focus of an investigation initiated by Colonel Luke S. Green, Chief of Staff at Fifth Army in Ft. Sam Houston.

According to unnamed military sources contacted by The Iconoclast, SFC Buswell "used his Government issued email account to send messages disloyal to the United States …" Because of these statements, SFC Buswell could soon find himself dishonorably discharged, court marshaled, or worse.

It all started as a simple response to a common, unsolicited mass email, sent to 38 individuals at Ft. Sam Houston on Aug. 2, 2006. The message, as well as Buswell’s response, is among documents obtained by The Iconoclast. The sender of the first message is identified as "Anderson, Larry Mr JMC". It reads:

This is being sent more as assurance for what happens when a plane hits a nuclear site more so than in response to that German website alleging a government conspiracy related to the 9/11 Pentagon plane crash (though the website does present an interesting perspective) – LarrySubject: F-4 vs. Concrete Wall

Take a look at this clip [not included] and you’ll get a good feel for what happens to an airplane when it hits a concrete wall. Many of you have seen the produced (but not factual), Michael Moore-esque website that asks the question; "If it’s true that a Boeing airliner hit the Pentagon, what happened to all the parts of it? Why do we not find more pieces of it?

Where did all that mass GO???" (Therefore, the paranoid loony liberal reasoning, 9-11 must have been a US gov’t conspiracy!) Well, for those who question what happened to "all the mass of that airplane".......watch this clip.

It’s the old Air Force engineering tests of the concrete barrier that surrounds nuclear reactor domes —tests to see if it will indeed survive an aerial attack. With the hi-speed cameras rolling, they accelerated an F-4 Phantom to 500mph and.........

Recall: "What happens when an ‘Unstoppable Force’ meets an ‘Immovable Object’???" (Remember, as you watch in slow motion as the F-4 turns to vapor, the Phantom was one of the toughest airplanes ever built).

SFC Buswell responded later that day, saying:

Subject: F-4 vs. Concrete Wall Hello,

I receive many unsolicited e-mails daily, this one I chose to respond to. The below mentioned premise that an F4 Phantom fighter jet hitting that hardened concrete barrier is akin to the alleged 757 hitting the Pentagon is like oil and water; they don’t mix, and they serve to muddy the issue. The issue is 911 was filled with errors in the ‘official report’ and ‘official story’ of that day, and, what happened that day. We all know and saw 2 planes hitting the WTC buildings, we didn’t see the 757 hit the Pentagon, nor did we see the plane crash in Shanksville PA. Both the PA and Pentagon ‘crashes’ don’t have clues and tell-tale signs of a jumbo-jet impacting those zones!

The Pentagon would have huge wing impacts in the side of the building; it didn’t. Shanksville PA would have had debris, and a large debris field; it didn’t.

Getting back to the F4...The Pentagon isn’t a nuclear hardened structure, so I can’t follow your weak logic that since an F4 vaporized itself in a test impact on a nuclear hardened structure that the alleged 757 hitting the Pentagon should have exhibited the same characteristics!

I say Occums razor is the best way to deduce this ‘day of infamy’; if you weigh all options, do some simple studying you will see 911 was clearly not executed by some arabs in caves with cell phones and 3 day old newspapers! I mean how are Arabs benefiting from pulling off 911? They have more war, more death and dismal conditions, so, how did 911 benefit them? Answer: It didn’t. So, who benefited from 9-11? The answer is sad, but simple; The Military Industial [sic] Complex.

It’s not a paranoid conspiracy to think there are conspiracies out there...and, it’s not Liberal Lunacy either, nor is it Conservative Kookiness! People, fellow citizens we’ve been had! We must demand a new independent investigation into 911 and look at all options of that day, and all plausabilities [sic], even the most incredulous theories must be examined.

Upon returning to his office the next day, Buswell discovered the locks had been changed, his security clearance was revoked, and an investigation had been launched. Buswell’s commanding officer, Colonel Luke Green, drafted a letter assigning Major Edwin Escobar to the investigation. According to sources, Colonel Green has asserted that SFC Buswell failed to obey Army regulations when he used his government issued email account to send what have been termed as messages disloyal to the United States with the intent of stirring up disloyalty, in a manner that brings discredit upon the United States Army.

It has been reported that Colonel Green also wrote that SFC Buswell claims to have information proving a conspiracy on the part of the United States Military Industrial Complex to attack targets within the United States, e.g., The Pentagon. Officials have suggested that the email response sent by SFC Buswell may be in violation of CFR 2635.705(a ), DoD-R 5500.7, and Joint Ethics Regulation paragraph 2-301b. These rules SFC Buswell is said to have perhaps violated regulate how soldiers utilize government resources, how they use their off-duty time, and how they use their official time.

The Iconoclast attempted to establish a dialogue with Colonel Green and Major Escobar, but calls were not returned as of press time. SFC Buswell declined to comment on the investigation, but noted that he spoke with his parents about the matter for a period of two days before he was ordered to not disclose any further information.

"My son spoke with me about [the investigation]," said Winthrop Buswell, SFC Buswell’s father. "There was an unsolicited email. My son, without divulging anything, without usurping anything, without doing anything to discredit anyone in any way, simply responded to that saying ‘Yes, there are what if’s. And maybe there is something that is being covered up.’ That’s all that I know. He responded to it, but it was unsolicited. I think – of course, I’m dad, being very much in love with his son and wanting to praise him – because he is a low man on the totem pole, of course he’s of pretty high rank but not quite an officer, that maybe … Maybe an investigation might be the scapegoat for whomever."

http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=426&z=54OUD NIEUWS, iederen met een beetje gezond verstand weet dat amerika zelf achter die aanslagen zit:jammer:

[sexywoman]

Hoe kom je daarbij? Die complot films vliegen je om de oren en worden echt nergens gecensureerd.Wie heeft het hier over complot films, er zijn zoveel feiten die dit bewijzen, maar goed jij hebt natuurlijk liever dat er moslims achter de aanslagen zitten;)

[KILL SWITCH]

[QUOTE=TagnaNtfoeloest]van wie zou hij dat geld hebben gekregen?:moe:[/QUOTE
Met welk geld worden teroristen betaald?:hihi:
Voor geld veraad men:hihi: zie sadam:hihi:

[Mister1979]

Hoe kom je daarbij? Die complot films vliegen je om de oren en worden echt nergens gecensureerd.


Die films zijn alleen maar op internet te zien en je zult ze nooit zien op de Amerikaanse tv. Mensen die twijfelen aan 11-9 of het nou ingenieurs, onderzoekers zijn etc deze worden niet aan het woord gelaten op de Amerikaanse tv.

Heel veel acteurs die kritiek hadden op Bush verloren hun baan zoals Marten Sheen, Susan Surandon etc.

Als je in de media kritiek hebt op 11-9 verlies je, je baan en wordt je gezien als landverader.

[Mister1979]

Wat niet uitsluit dat Osama er OOK achter zit... Hoe zou dat nou zitten?

Zo: Concurrentie is ook een vorm van samenwerking: samenwerking in rivaliteit.

Zoals CocaCola zoorgt voor een zo groot mogelijk marktaandeel voor zichzelf, zo doet PepsiCola dat ook, en het gevolg van deze harde strijd is dat ze samen de colamarkt domineren.

Dat is m.i. het type samenwerking tussen de CIA en al Qaida, al vanaf 1980, toen Osama tegen de Russen vocht met CIA-steun, en verbazingwekkend genoeg de VS voor het eerst de oorlog verklaarde.


Verbazingswekkend is:

Dat Ben Laden door CIA agenten is opgezocht voor 11-9 in Dubai en de informatie over de ontmoeting is afkomstig van de Franse geheime dienst.

Niet aleen bin Laden wist de westerse geheime diensten te vinden. Ook Sayed Rahmatullah Hashimi, een adviseur van de nog voortvluchtige Talibanleider Mullah Omar had een ontmoeting met de top van de CIA, in maart 2001. Geregeld door zijn PR-dame Leila Helms, de dochter van Richard Helms, voormalig CIA-directeur.

De regering wist misschien van niets, een lokale FBI-afdeling wist al meer. In wat het tijdschrijft Time The Bombshell Memo heeft genoemd, schrijft FBI-agente Coleen Rowley uit Minneapolis dat ze baalt van haar bazen in Washington die haar tegenwerkten bij onderzoek naar Zacarias Moussaoui, iemand die mee heeft geholpen bij de voorbereidingen van de kapingen. Special Agent Robert G. Wright, Jr.gaat nog verder. Hij is ook tegengewerkt door zijn bazen, maar zegt in een persconfrentie dat zijn onderzoek de aanslagen op 11 september had kunnen voorkomen. Een derde FBI-agent, John O'Neill, leider van de Nationale Veiligheidsafdeling van het FBI, deed onderzoek naar bin Laden. Hij nam uit onvrede ontslag, ook vanwege tegenwerking, maar dan door het ministerie van Buitenlandse Zaken. Volgens O'Neill had de tegenwerking te maken met oliebelangen die Bush wou verdedigen.


*Marvin Bush (broer van George W Bush ) had de leiding over de beveiliging van de WTC gebouwen.


*Wie hielp Bush aan een zege in Flordia? Zijn broer Governor Jeb Bush.

[turkiturki]

k vind het ook vreemd hoor.
joekel van een vliegtuig stort neer op pentagon en hele wrakstukken van het vliegtuig is spoorloos.

zover k had gehoord werd de locatie van binh laden ook ondekt door een amerikaanse journalist maar die weer tegen gehouden werd door CIA zelf.

[datisgeenstijl]

Hoe kom je daarbij? Die complot films vliegen je om de oren en worden echt nergens gecensureerd.

nee dat niet

maar met knip en plakwerk wel geENCANEERD

[Strewt]

Ieder persoon die zich een beetje verdiept in 11-9 ziet dat er veel dingen niet kloppen, maar als je in Amerika je mond opendoet en een nieuwe onderzoek eist wordt je gezien als landverader en ben je, je baan kwijt.

Iedereen die in Amerika twijfelt aan 11-9 wordt de mond gesnoerd.

Dat er dingen niet kloppen dat ben ik met je eens, maar dat je in Amerika daar geen commentaar op mag leveren is gewoon niet waar. Ik weet niet of je de laatste polls van Bush en z'n regering hebt gezien, maar hun populariteit loopt hard achteruit.
Er zijn dagelijks demonstraties om de troepen uit Irak en Afghanistan met onmiddelijke ingang terug te halen. Ook zijn er hele volksstammen die menen dat de regering zaken bewust verdraaid heeft, of informatie heeft achtergehouden, m.b.t. 11-9. Die mensen mogen dat allemaal vinden. Het is namenlijk een vrij land.

Wat die soldaat uit bovenstaand stuk heeft gedaan is negatief commentaar leveren op zijn werkgever via een door zijn werkgever toegewezen e-mail adres.
Dat is niet handig. Sterker nog, dat is gewoon dom.

Als ik via het email adres van mijn werkgever het bedrijf waarvoor ik werk zwart zou maken dan zou ik ook een probleem hebben waarschijnlijk.

Als die soldaat z'n mening gewoon via zijn eigen privé email adres naar buiten had gebracht was er waarschijnlijk niets aan de hand geweest.

[Mister1979]

k vind het ook vreemd hoor.
joekel van een vliegtuig stort neer op pentagon en hele wrakstukken van het vliegtuig is spoorloos.

zover k had gehoord werd de locatie van binh laden ook ondekt door een amerikaanse journalist maar die weer tegen gehouden werd door CIA zelf.


Het kan nog gekker. Al Zawhari (tweede man van Al Qaeda) zat vorige keer live op tv bij Al Jazeera en mensen gingen bellen om hem vragen te stellen.

Ik dacht nu kan Amerika hem toch traceren via satelliet? :confused:


Bij Pentagon hebben ze geen enkel DNA spoor gevonden van slachtoffers alles was verbrand behalve een paspoort van de zogenaamde terrorist.


Het wordt alleen maar gekker.